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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:49 PM Apr 2016

Release of Clinton’s Wall Street Speeches Could End Her Candidacy for President

Release of Clinton’s Wall Street Speeches Could End Her Candidacy for President
04/15/2016 * by Seth Abrasion * HuffPo

The reason you and I will never see the transcripts of Hillary Clinton’s speeches to Wall Street fat-cats — and the reason she’s established a nonsensical condition for their release, that being an agreement by members of another party, involved in a separate primary, to do the same — is that if she were ever to release those transcripts, it could end her candidacy for president.

Please don’t take my word for it, though.

Nor even that of the many neutral observers in the media who are deeply troubled by Clinton’s lack of transparency as to these well-compensated closed-door events — a lack of transparency that has actually been a hallmark of her career in politics.

Nor do we even need to take Clinton’s word for it — as we could certainly argue that her insistence that none of these transcripts ever be seen by the public is itself a confession that her words would cause significant trauma to her presidential bid.

In fact, it appears they’d cause enough trauma that Clinton would rather publicly stonewall — to the point of being conspicuously, uncomfortably evasive — in public debate after public debate, to endure damning editorial after damning editorial, and to leave thousands and thousands of voters further doubting her honesty and integrity, all to ensure that no one outside Goldman Sachs, and certainly no voter who wasn’t privy to those closed-door speeches, ever hears a word of what she said in them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/release-of-clintons-wall-street-speeches_b_9698632.html
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Release of Clinton’s Wall Street Speeches Could End Her Candidacy for President (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 OP
She shouldn't be running. dchill Apr 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #5
+1 tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #12
+ 100 farleftlib Apr 2016 #19
She is the presumptuous nominee... dchill Apr 2016 #21
Or maybe she is setting a trap for her detractors? nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #2
Or it is just Seth "Baghdad Bobbin'" Godhumor Apr 2016 #4
She isn't that smart. Chan790 Apr 2016 #9
Risk management. Avalux Apr 2016 #3
The transcripts will come out if she wins Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #6
'She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.' QC Apr 2016 #7
Sounds believable, although I suspect there's ... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #16
Yeah, I don't think they would have shoveled hundreds of millions at her QC Apr 2016 #20
I wouldn't be surprised if the Repukes had a recording ... cureautismnow Apr 2016 #8
Yes, there's a lot of people who know what was said because they were there elias7 Apr 2016 #11
Heidi Cruz was there as a Goldman Sachs manager which means Teds holding the evidence nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #18
Wishful thinking. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #10
I agree, some people still cling to the idea that she could ever be transparent, wishful thinking nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #13
Yeah ... That's exactly what I was talking about. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #15
"Seth Abrasion" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14
Any smart candidate would not give anyone fodder for attack. eastwestdem Apr 2016 #17

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
12. +1
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:59 PM
Apr 2016

Too much baggage and unanswered questions from her past, present and future resulting in her terrible trustworthy poll numbers should be enough for the DNC to disqualify her.

But of course she has the DNC in her back pocket.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
19. + 100
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

She doesn't have an ounce of integrity and her avarice to stuff her pockets at any cost is disgusting.

dchill

(38,442 posts)
21. She is the presumptuous nominee...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

Egocentric, monomaniacal and narcissistic. What a trifecta of human failing. She cares not one whit for her country OR her party. Two kinds of voters I'll never understand - the ones who believe her, and the ones who don't, but will vote for her anyway.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
4. Or it is just Seth "Baghdad Bobbin'"
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:57 PM
Apr 2016

Always fun when we get both SA and HA columns on the same day.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
9. She isn't that smart.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

First-hand experience. She's not dumb, but she reminds me of my freshman year roommate...he wasn't smart either, he just stayed up all night studying to break even. Some people are smart...others are hard-working to make up for not being smart.

Hillary's the second.

It's better than being GWB who is also not smart and doesn't give a fuck about his performance so makes no effort to make up for being a dunce.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
3. Risk management.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

She's determined that not releasing the transcripts, and enduring uncomfortable questions about them, won't damage her as much as releasing them.

QC

(26,371 posts)
7. 'She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.'
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:01 PM
Apr 2016
When Hillary Clinton spoke to Goldman Sachs executives and technology titans at a summit in Arizona in October of 2013, she spoke glowingly of the work the bank was doing raising capital and helping create jobs, according to people who saw her remarks.

Clinton, who received $225,000 for her appearance, praised the diversity of Goldman’s workforce and the prominent roles played by women at the blue-chip investment bank and the tech firms present at the event. She spent no time criticizing Goldman or Wall Street more broadly for its role in the 2008 financial crisis.

“It was pretty glowing about us,” one person who watched the event said. “It’s so far from what she sounds like as a candidate now. It was like a rah-rah speech. She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.”


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
16. Sounds believable, although I suspect there's ...
Reply to QC (Reply #7)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:09 PM
Apr 2016

Language in those speeches that would be very damaging to her in this climate of anti-wall st.

Think about it, she's not going to accept a massive payment and then give a speech criticizing GS for their role in the 2008 financial collapse.

QC

(26,371 posts)
20. Yeah, I don't think they would have shoveled hundreds of millions at her
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

to come and rail at them and call down divine fire on them.

I'm sure the speeches are very chummy and flattering, and that's not good in the present climate.

cureautismnow

(1,676 posts)
8. I wouldn't be surprised if the Repukes had a recording ...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

of a speech or two and would release them before Nov. I'm sure they're just itching for a little payback after the secret 47% Romney speech transmission.

elias7

(3,991 posts)
11. Yes, there's a lot of people who know what was said because they were there
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

I'm wondering why not a single person has spoken out, either either to support or refute the chief concerns here.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
17. Any smart candidate would not give anyone fodder for attack.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:13 PM
Apr 2016

If she wins big in NY, there is absolutely no reason to release them ever, since that should end Sander's hopes. Her campaign is looking at the big picture.

If Sanders comes close or wins in NY, then she might want to think about it, but not after some polling to see if it makes any difference to the average voter. I can tell you that no one in the lunch room at work today had ever heard of this issue. Being a politician is about more than just the obvious, it's about strategy.

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