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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

Austin voters (maybe Texas in general) - a warning.

Found this from a FB friend:

PLEASE CHECK YOUR BALLOT BEFORE YOU COMPLETE YOUR VOTE:

A friend who voted this morning at Randall's (Brodie and Slaughter) sent this message: "We cast a straight Democratic vote, and my husba
nd saw on the 1st page that his vote was for Obama. When he got to the end summary page, much to his surprise, his Presidential selection indicated a vote for Romney. He called one of the monitors over, and the man verified his concern. They went back page by page. Every vote was for a Democrat except the Presidential vote. He helped change the vote and brought this to the attention of the Deputy Election Judge on site. They couldn't explain how this could have happened, and our concern is that THEY DID NOT appear to be overly concerned. We, of course, are!

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Reply Austin voters (maybe Texas in general) - a warning. (Original post)
Richard D Oct 2012 OP
RKP5637 Oct 2012 #1
Cha Oct 2012 #8
RKP5637 Oct 2012 #12
defacto7 Oct 2012 #20
reusrename Oct 2012 #33
RKP5637 Oct 2012 #35
progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #2
Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #3
gateley Oct 2012 #4
GetTheRightVote Oct 2012 #5
rachel1 Oct 2012 #6
JackN415 Oct 2012 #7
AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #9
Columbus Free Press Oct 2012 #27
oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #10
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #17
NoPasaran Oct 2012 #24
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #26
NoPasaran Oct 2012 #25
PDittie Oct 2012 #34
Catherine Vincent Oct 2012 #11
JackN415 Oct 2012 #13
Gothmog Oct 2012 #14
LisaL Oct 2012 #16
defacto7 Oct 2012 #21
Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #31
budkin Oct 2012 #15
TexasTowelie Oct 2012 #18
ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #19
defacto7 Oct 2012 #22
Rstrstx Oct 2012 #23
Columbus Free Press Oct 2012 #28
Hutzpa Oct 2012 #29
ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #30
Rider3 Oct 2012 #32

Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:37 PM

1. Election rigging is going to become more and more common in the US. Many vote

with a back box machine, no auditing and who knows which way the vote ends up tallied. We are becoming more and more a third world country each day ... problem is many do not seem to get this and many do not care. These folks are the exception, but many wader around with deer in the headlight looks and thinking abilities.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:22 PM

8. That's Why It's Uber Important to Vote in DEMS..because

they don't screw around with our VOTES!

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:37 PM

12. Well said, Cha! The R's only know how to get ahead by being bullies, cheats, liars and

buying elections. They are a wholly dishonest, threating and dangerous political party and dangerous to the survival of the US. IMO this election is not just about R vs. D, it's also about the survival of the US as a democracy. With Obama/Biden we have a chance, with Romney/Ryan the future of the US as a democracy is gone.

All one has to do is look at the companies and what happened to the employees as Bain Capital took over. Replace employees with citizens, and that's the future for most citizens, a dystopia many seem to be welcoming with open arms if they vote for Romney/Ryan. Just the strange smirk Romney perpetually wears should tell even the most naive what's going on one would think.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:38 AM

20. hear, hear!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:57 PM

33. have you seen this article by Mike Collins (autorank)?

 

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Response to reusrename (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:10 PM

35. No, I hadn't seen this. Thanks for the link!!! n/t

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:42 PM

2. I don't have the numbers, but please ask your FB friend to report this right away.

I'm sure other DUers have links to whom they should call. You need to follow up with this, if you can, as I doubt it's a random error. This is how they steal the elections. I remember this from 2004, too!!!

There was a video done where it showed someone trying to vote for the Democratic candidate, and it kept reverting to Bush.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:43 PM

3. F*ing VOTE FLIPPING!!! GRRR - needs to be reported.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:45 PM

4. Kick

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

5. This is not good...

I hope the UN observers know about this problem...
No wonder Texas does not want them there at the polls.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:51 PM

6. K&R

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:15 PM

7. If real, this needs to be investigated seriously

 

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:26 PM

9. Strange That They Would Need to Steal Votes in TEXAS

Does anybody really consider Texas to be in play?

This looks like an attempt to steal votes from Obama, but why would they bother?
Does he have any chance of winning there?

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:13 AM

27. Two reasons

1) Texas uses Hart Intercivic Machines... which Romney's friends and family functionally own

2) Vote flipping in "safe" states for Republicans creates the meme of a "popular mandate"

3) If the vote flipping in some places fails, and Romney looses the electoral vote, but not the popular, it creates a very bad dynamic for 4 years

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:26 PM

10. Occasionally

voting machines fall out calibration and where you touch the screen, it "thinks" you touched it somewhere else. They're supposed to recalibrate the machines each morning and I believe a good faith effort is made to do this. I saw this happen in a sherrif's race some years ago when helping a disabled person vote.

Bottom line, carefully review your ballot before you submit it.

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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:03 AM

17. True, but this was a straight Democratic vote. Only one spot was checked.

And it was nowhere near the names of the candidates. Not even on the same page. This is something entirely different.

But your advice about careful ballot review is excellent.

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:50 AM

24. Having voted just Monday in the same county

The option to vote straight ticket is right before the Presidential choices. On the same page.

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Response to NoPasaran (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:49 AM

26. I remember it as being on a separate screen.

But that is my recollection from the last election. My mistake. Still, there is no way to vote straight Dem and have the entire ballot filled out with one click, while 'accidentally' choosing a repub candidate with a misplaced touch. As you pointed out, especially on the machines we use, since they are not touchscreens.

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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:55 AM

25. The e-slate used in Travis County is not a touch screen

It uses a dial-a-prayer wheel to highlight ballot choices and then you press a button to make your selection.

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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:54 PM

34. Hart InterCivic e-Slates aren't touchscreen

They're scroll-wheel.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:28 PM

11. Thanks for the warning

I'll be sure to let everyone I know that will be voting to double check their ballot.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:38 PM

13. I voted in TX, did not recall, but probably did not have the problem...

 

because on the summary page, I made sure no Repub candidate gets my vote. Either Green Party if no Democrat, but not Republican. If only Repub, I left blank (I live in deep red county). If Romney were selected, it would have jumped out in front of me.

But it's good to call to attention.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:59 PM

14. Be careful of Emphasis voting

I am running the voter protection operation for my county for the County Democratic Party. Your advice is very good and I urge all voters to check the summary screen at the end to make sure that the proper selections have been made.

There is an e-mail going around telling people that you have to vote separately for President if you vote a straight party ticket. That e-mail is true for North Carolina but not Texas. North Carolina law prohibits one from voting POTUS on a straight party ticket and so in North Carolina, you vote for POTUS first and then get to vote a straight party ticket for the rest of the races.

In Texas on a number of machines, voting a straight party ticket and then voting for the candidate also is called emphasis voting and messes up the software. That is why it is always a good idea to check the summary screen at the end to make sure that your vote is accurate.

This e-mail is going through my county and we have to do a robocall and e-mail blast trying to warn people that this e-mail is not accurate for Texas. Snopes has debunked this e-mail. We are telling our voters to be careful and check the summary screen at the end before they cast their ballot.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:34 PM

16. They are confusing the hell out of people with these rules.

Hopefully voters in NC know about this, because that really is a big problem-if they vote straight democratic but don't vote for Obama separately they didn't vote for president.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:42 AM

21. How can it possibly be so difficult

to vote? Why has it come to this?

(rhetorical)

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:19 PM

31. What county? I just voted here in Jefferson Co. Tx. I did straight Dem but review looked ok.

Hated to see so many R's and Libertarians w/no Dems even running!

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:32 PM

15. I'm going to another Randall's tomorrow to vote

I'll try it out and see what happens.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:24 AM

18. Cross-posted to Texas group.

Thanks for sharing the information.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:24 AM

19. Thanks for the heads up!

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:44 AM

22. Be vigilant, people

in every state!

We cannot let these people get by with treason. Similar things could happen anywhere.

Don't let your guard down.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:06 AM

23. How much of TX is using electronic voting?

This is the first time I've voted in a (blue) border county in south Texas and they were using, to my surprise, a real paper ballot !!! Don't know if it's budget reasons or they just don't trust those oversized Newtons but whatever the case I LIKED IT.

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Response to Rstrstx (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:15 AM

28. You get a paper ballot

and an electronic tabulation machine...

thats where the fix is

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:06 PM

29. Oh snap! it is the Texas shenanigans my cousin talked about.

send this info to the FBI - 281-514-1888


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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:21 PM

30. What type of machine?

I used an optical scan (and voted straight "D"). It does not display who you voted for, it only counts the number of ballots it collects.

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Response to Richard D (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:54 PM

32. GOP rigged

this election, as well as the ones that got Bush (W) in. I was concerned with OH, since Tagg Romney just purchased the company supplying the voting machines to OH. Isn't that a bit of a conflict? Just a tad? Now, we go to TX and see the bullshit happening again. The only way these people are going to win is by cheating, and they're good at that. This is scary.

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