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TIME - Ohio poll - Obama +5 (Original Post) BraKez2 Oct 2012 OP
Fuckin' A! Azathoth Oct 2012 #1
K&R flamingdem Oct 2012 #2
Much more credible than robojunk from Rasmussen or even PPP. nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #3
WindyCityGardener WindyCityGardener Oct 2012 #40
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #41
Among people who have already voted naviman Oct 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #42
It's over Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #5
Don't Get Cocky!! BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #31
No, I'll be cocky Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #37
Well, you know me, I'm never complacent... BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #43
Finally, some good news kansasobama Oct 2012 #6
PPP had O +4 in NV today DrToast Oct 2012 #9
Finally? There's been good news the whole time Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #14
I don't know teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #24
Yeah, but we'd better have our BEST relief pitcher... BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #32
Booyah! DrToast Oct 2012 #7
The More The Better colsohlibgal Oct 2012 #8
We weren't ahead in the polls in 2004, though. MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #12
Oh God. There is nothing similar to 2004. Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #17
Actually teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #25
It will be close kansasobama Oct 2012 #10
WI looks solid. Jennicut Oct 2012 #16
I agree teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #28
I'm having trouble getting the page to load TroyD Oct 2012 #11
Ohio is starting to look like more solid for Obama. Jennicut Oct 2012 #13
A 2-3 point lead is NOT what I would call "solid"... BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #33
If you look at the 2004 final averages in RCP for Kerry and Bush Jennicut Oct 2012 #36
This poll, plus the Nevada poll someone postd earlier... Welcome_hubby Oct 2012 #15
Indeed. This is the worst polling day in a long time for Mitt. DrToast Oct 2012 #21
Yep teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #30
Ohio + Wisconsin=4 more years! nt aaaaaa5a Oct 2012 #18
Wisconsin - RCP=Obama +2.7, Pollster=Obama +3.3 krawhitham Oct 2012 #27
'the two candidates are locked in a dead heat among Ohioans who have not yet voted' TroyD Oct 2012 #19
Yes! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #20
RCP has posted the TIME poll! TroyD Oct 2012 #22
Cheer up, Romney fans. You still have Arkansas! bushisanidiot Oct 2012 #23
Ohio, Nevada/Iowa, and Wisconsin and it's over for Romney ncav53 Oct 2012 #26
And "TIME poll" is now trending Inuca Oct 2012 #29
K&R amborin Oct 2012 #34
Exit polls had Kerry sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #35
It looks more and more like Ohio is IT. Sucks that this gets so close. johnnyrocket Oct 2012 #38
Wake me up after Obama wins.... CaliGal Oct 2012 #39
 
40. WindyCityGardener
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:25 AM
Oct 2012

Shouldn't this be against the law ? Time Magazine has a poll out for Ohio. The poll is weighted 9% for Obama. In the poll they say Obama is winning independents 53 % to Romney's 38%. But if you go to the real poll. The numbers for Independents are Romney 55% and Obama 32%. Now they are just lying about their own polls. They continue to say the poll is not weighted. But it clearly is. 273 Democrats and 206 Republicans.

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Response to naviman (Reply #4)

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
5. It's over
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

Sorry I know a bunch of you will shake your head, throw salt over your shoulder, sprinkle vegan chicken blood around the house but Romney has NEVER. N-E-V-E-R led in OH. That 2 OH polls this week >+2 for Obama.

Romney cannot make up the deficit in early voting.

The O campaign said today in Halperin interview for the umpteenth time they have a significant lead there and IA and WI.

It's done. So let's run up the score. Get NC and hell, AZ.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
31. Don't Get Cocky!!
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:02 PM
Oct 2012

Polls are constantly shifting back and forth and we CANNOT let up in the handful of must-win states for us (OH, WI, IA, and NV). We need to keep our resources in preserving that firewall, not by dicking around in red-leaning states that we're most likely not going to win this time.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
37. No, I'll be cocky
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:26 PM
Oct 2012

because the polls HAVEN'T been shifting back and forth in OH,WI,IA and NV. That's what the campaign has been saying over and over. The race became stagnant in those states after the first debate.

I'm just being a good Dem and listening to the campaign, not amnesiac poll-watchers in the media or interweb. And the campaign has been right every time, with everyone else catching up a week later.

As for dicking around w/ red states I'll leave it to the campaign. Per usual am sure they are already several steps ahead if they're reaching out to any potential red pickups.

So yeah, I'm already glowing cause O's got this.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
43. Well, you know me, I'm never complacent...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:45 AM
Oct 2012

...but if Obama does in fact win this baby, the beers will be on me, brother!

kansasobama

(609 posts)
6. Finally, some good news
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

Oh! man! I was getting worried with the tight polls.

Now, if only we can get Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nevada....

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
14. Finally? There's been good news the whole time
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:23 PM
Oct 2012

I swear it's like Dems hit a reset button when they go to bed everynight and wake up screaming about Romney.

 
24. I don't know
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

The polls have been scary lately. Ohio has been super tight. +5 is a sight for sore eyes. Quinnipiac had the same margin but that poll leans left so it's nice to get the +5 confirmed by another credible poll. Combined with +3 for surveyusa and +3 for Fox News, things are looking good in Ohio.

It's like we had a one run lead in the bottom of the 8th inning and the +5 Time poll is like hitting a home run to put us up by 2. You could say we've been winning the whole time in Ohio but it's nice to get an insurance run late in the game.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
32. Yeah, but we'd better have our BEST relief pitcher...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:03 PM
Oct 2012

...in for the 9th inning in Ohio. It is an absolute MUST-WIN state for us, along with Wisconsin, Iowa, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
8. The More The Better
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:18 PM
Oct 2012

I'm paranoid, if it's close enough, it could be 2004 revisited. That's in my Binkley like closet of anxieties.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
12. We weren't ahead in the polls in 2004, though.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:21 PM
Oct 2012

We thought superior turnout and "cell phone bias" in polling was understating our voting. We were wrong. Bush might have pulled a fast on in Ohio, but he legitimately won the popular vote. And he was leading in most polls. Save one outlier:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/oh_polls.html

The polls definitely pointed to a Bush win in Ohio.

 
25. Actually
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:56 PM
Oct 2012

The Ohio polls are almost identical to 2008. Things are looking up and time is running out on the Mitt$ter.

kansasobama

(609 posts)
10. It will be close
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:19 PM
Oct 2012

No, it will be close unless Florida goes to Obama

Do not count chickens. WI and NH are still iffy although we may be ahead slightly. Even in Ohio, we still need to vote.

 
28. I agree
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:57 PM
Oct 2012

I'd like to see some more polling in WI. If Obama wins Ohio (and he most likely will), it's hard to imagine him losing WI though.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. Ohio is starting to look like more solid for Obama.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:22 PM
Oct 2012

The sample of Dems may be generous (D+9) in this poll but it was D+6 in 2008. On Pollster at Huffpost, Obama is up by about 2 points. I would say 2 to 3 points seems about right.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
33. A 2-3 point lead is NOT what I would call "solid"...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:05 PM
Oct 2012

...especially considering most polls margin of error is +/- 3 pts anyway.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
36. If you look at the 2004 final averages in RCP for Kerry and Bush
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:20 PM
Oct 2012

they are scarily almost dead on. I know some people have issues in Ohio and NM but almost every state was correct in accuracy. Romney has not really ever led in Ohio in a significant way. Gravis and Pulse Marketing (an offshoot of Ramussen) hardly count.

2 to 3 points is huge in a close race, especially with the early voting. In my opinion, the factors in Ohio may lead it to be a close race but not favorable to Romney winning it. Per this poll, the voters there think their economy has improved. That is not helpful for Romney.

 

Welcome_hubby

(312 posts)
15. This poll, plus the Nevada poll someone postd earlier...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:24 PM
Oct 2012

spell big trouble for Romney..., especially because...

1) Polls have not fully reflected the post-debate reality (too early), and
2) It's plausible that the Idiana wacko will hurt Romney with his abortion comments today..

good news.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
19. 'the two candidates are locked in a dead heat among Ohioans who have not yet voted'
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:26 PM
Oct 2012

It's important to note that Obama's lead comes from the early voting, which is a great testament to the work the Obama Team did in this area.

But as TIME mentions, Obama & Romney are tied in the current voting. So it could still be close, depending on what happens with the way the votes are counted etc. It's good to have room for error (eg. Republican fraud) so nothing should be taken for granted until the state is called for Obama on November 6.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
35. Exit polls had Kerry
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:14 PM
Oct 2012

leading bush by 3 to 5 points all through election day in 2004, yet he managed the near statistically impossible task of loosing both the popular vote and the electoral college after the machines did their black box magic.

CaliGal

(37 posts)
39. Wake me up after Obama wins....
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

Okay, I can't take the anxiety anymore!!! I already voted, so just wake me up after Obama wins, please.....

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