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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:15 AM

HERE is why Democrats are more nervous than Republicans

Because, deep down, most Republicans know that Obama is a capable president and the country would be OK even if Romney loses. A Romney win would be a pleasant surprise to them, but a Romney loss wouldn't crush them... they don't like him very much anyway.

But for us, a Romney win means the SCOTUS becomes more conservative. The safety net begins to go away. War in Iran is likely.

We KNOW that an Obama loss is devastating to the country and the world.

The rich will be OK no matter who wins. The poor and middle class will be destroyed if Obama doesn't win.

We have reason to be more nervous.

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Reply HERE is why Democrats are more nervous than Republicans (Original post)
scheming daemons Oct 2012 OP
Berlum Oct 2012 #1
Patiod Oct 2012 #2
CrispyQ Oct 2012 #7
Schema Thing Oct 2012 #3
CrispyQ Oct 2012 #4
barbtries Oct 2012 #5
yellowcanine Oct 2012 #6
TexasCPA Oct 2012 #8
ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #9
Amphigouri Oct 2012 #30
MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #10
smelltest Oct 2012 #13
Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #14
pnwmom Oct 2012 #11
hue Oct 2012 #12
oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #15
heaven05 Oct 2012 #16
wildeyed Oct 2012 #17
BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #18
defacto7 Oct 2012 #19
myshofer Oct 2012 #20
Zoeisright Oct 2012 #21
Silent3 Oct 2012 #22
doublethink Oct 2012 #23
johnsmith9875 Oct 2012 #24
BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #34
Bucky Oct 2012 #25
nolabels Oct 2012 #26
formercia Oct 2012 #27
nobunnyclue Oct 2012 #28
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA Oct 2012 #29
Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #31
diane in sf Oct 2012 #32
krawhitham Oct 2012 #33
GetTheRightVote Oct 2012 #35
Kennah Oct 2012 #36
DCKit Oct 2012 #37

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:17 AM

1. A Romney stolen election means THEOCRACY

You smelly UNBELIEVERS obviously need a Soul Enema,
and then to get baptized in THE ABSOLUTE (and copyright) TRUTH.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:31 AM

2. Precisely right

We've been safe, kept out of severe depression, and slowly recovering from recession (in better shape than Europe). Continuing on this path, we'll be okay. Jobs are being added slowly. Housing is recovering, slowly.

Romney/Ryan comes in and slashes taxes and deficits skyrocket, causing vital programs to get slashed at state and national level, as Grover Norquist snorts with glee, and we're screwed, quickly. Infrastructure collapses, poor people are on the street, poor people die without health care - it's a disaster, and it won't take long to happen.

I used to think this Onion post at the start of Bush's term was funny, but I don't think so any more, and the same exact thing can be said for Romney/Ryan
http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-pros,464/

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Response to Patiod (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:44 AM

7. It's like they had a crystal ball.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:33 AM

3. Also, across the board, we're Democrats because we are smarter...


...and smarter people are just naturally more inclined to doubt.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:34 AM

4. Goodbye reproductive rights!

I hope young women AND men are paying attention! Do you want to control when you become a parent or do you think some religious whacko should take that decision away from you?

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:41 AM

5. that's so true.

and i can tell you it's stressful.

GOTV

we get out the vote, Obama wins.
keep in mind the republicans will steal it if it's close enough they think they can get away with it again.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:42 AM

6. That is why I think it is a mistake for Romney to play up the momentum meme.

He would be better to try to keep his true believers a little nervous so they will be sure to vote.
The ones who are not so afraid of Obama may not vote at all - they aren't going to vote for Obama but they don't feel like they have to vote against him either, particularly if they think it is in the bag for Romney anyway. We are talking about just a few people on the edges - the voters who feel very strongly one way or the other are going to vote so perceptions don't matter. In a close race in a state like N. Carolina perceptions could matter though in the turnout.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:04 PM

8. A 25% chance of a Bush third term is very scary

Romney is just as dumb as Bush but speaks in a different accent.

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Response to TexasCPA (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:08 PM

9. Great analysis!

If we thought Bush was bad, bait for Bush 3.0.

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Response to TexasCPA (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:37 PM

30. Do t underestimate Romney

Bush was dumb. Romney is smart; if he gets in, he can make his agenda happen. He's scarier than Bush ever was.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:19 PM

10. We are nervous

because we suck at this. Our guy is winning. People need to chill out. Republicans are confident, and their guy is losing, by any measure. We are doing exactly what the New Yorker article yesterday said...creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just go vote and relax. November 6th will be a happy night.

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Response to MSMITH33156 (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:32 PM

13. Agreed

We need to chill out, GOTV, and maintain our focus. I believe the article you are referring to was not in New Yorker, but in New York Magazine. Here is a link to the incisive article by Jonathan Chait: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/romney-says-hes-winning-its-a-bluff.html

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Response to MSMITH33156 (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:37 PM

14. Bingo. I can't believe people are excusing their

anxiety and paranoia. This is why I really think of myself as Independent. I just don't share the wussy Dem temperament even though policy-wise I am even more to the left. I just can't believe how weak a spine the party has.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:19 PM

11. One more reasons: the elections of 2000 and 2004 were subject to election fraud in critical states

and voter suppression.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:21 PM

12. I'm totally on the same page. Rmoney as POTUS scares me greatly for many reasons!!!

Repub sheeple drink the kool-aide every day from talk radio & other sources.
They live in their happy little dream world while we face the reality of who Rmoney is and isn't!
Those in other countries cannot imagine how Rmoney even became a candidate!! It re-enforces their
lack of confidence in the US people!!
Rmoney & the RW frighten me as it is obvious their views are not objective and actually crazy!!

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Response to hue (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:40 PM

15. ^^^ Truth

Well said

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 PM

16. mitttywit win

means mormonocracy! Theocracy, at least for me would mean a pat robertson or some of his american taliban ilk, christian as it were. Mormons ARE NOT CHRISTIAN! Faith in Jesus has no prominent place in their religion. They are a cultish group. Which is fine, but I remember Jim Jones, that was a cult.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 PM

17. I have been thinking about what a Romney presidency would mean.

I mean Moderate Mitt's not so bad right? And then I remember Bush's compassionate conservative charade during his first general election. And the fact that 2/3rds of Romney's foreign policy experts are Bush people. And how heinously wrong and deceitful Mitt is on fiscal issues with the same ties to big business and the same lack of ability and experience in foreign policy. And I hope that people don't get fooled again. Eight years of Bush policies and incompetence were enough! I really don't want to be saying I Told You So again.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:29 PM

18. Here's why I'm more nervous...

Besides the obvious results of Obama losing would include health care reform being repealed, a Supreme Court packed with Samuel Alitos and Antonin Scalias, a return to supply-side economics which caused the Great Recession, and costly nation-building wars, the fact that we Democrats have won only 4 of the last 11 presidential elections gives me very little faith in the American people. Nobody reads anymore (at least nothing objective), and they believe only what they wish to. People accept that any six-word tweet they receive from some political idol as gospel. This dumbing-down of America is causing our nation's downfall.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:33 PM

19. It couldn't be better said...

it is a fact that the world has much to loose with a Romney presidency. I most worry about the SCOTUS. It's a lasting legacy that could challenge the sanity of America if pushed farther to the right. I'm nervous, but not discouraged.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:42 PM

20. yes Obama is capable to handle the current situation.

hi, i agree to your point. thanks for sharing.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:49 PM

21. Well, plus repukes cheat. And democrats do not.

After all two of the last three elections were stolen by repukes.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:56 PM

22. Partly true, but...

...some Republicans might not be nervous right now simply because they are in complete denial of the possibility of Romney losing. They simply refuse to entertain the possibility of another four years of Obama.

For many of them losing will be devastating. They are very afraid of the fabricated Obama of their imaginations, the Kenyan Muslim Socialist who can't possibly win because "the American People" will see him for what (they imagine) he is and reject him.

If these extremists allow for the possibility of an Obama win, it's only because they worry that Obama will "steal" the election, the "only possible" way he can win as far as they are concerned.

Some of these Republicans, I'm afraid, will become very dangerous and unstable. They do not "know deep down" that Obama is capable and moderate. The only thing they have deep down is a crazier imaginary version of Obama than already crazy version they've absorbed from right wing media.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:56 PM

23. ...

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:13 PM

24. My only fear is Democrats will stay home on Tuesday...

For some reason a surprising amount of young Democrats have fallen for the "Voting doesn't matter" propaganda, which is pushed by the GOP on them and also by independents.
Time to take off your knit caps hipsters, and go vote. You can be slackers for 364 days out of the year but for that day make an exception.

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Response to johnsmith9875 (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:14 PM

34. We know they all did in 2010.

And look at the result of their apathy.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:22 PM

25. I think you misjudge how paranoid conservatives are after 30 yrs of fear radio propaganda

Lots of them truly believe Obama's simply held his socializing, gun confiscating, secret Shariya, homosexual urges in check for the last four years simply in hopes of getting a second term--which is when he'll really cut loose. Delusional? Well, sure. But let me just say in their defense that most of them are crazy.

No, I think there are two reasons why Democrats appear more nervous than Republicans. First, they have a culture of true-believerism that sustains them in their hours of conflict. We, OTOH, have a culture of skepticism and inward reflection. Individuals will vary from case to case, of course, but in the aggregate, Dems are just better at looking inward and Republicans are better at projecting an outward "game face."

The second reason is that you are probably more subjectively aware of the angst on our side than whan they exhibit on their side.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:08 PM

26. If i were a billionaire i would be concerned

The big-buckers should realize Obama has gotten a lot more grief from them and a lot less support this election. Kind of makes me think there might be a little payback this time if things go our way

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:26 PM

27. Daddy Warbucks (R) says:

You piss-ants better be afraid.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:00 PM

28. Actually, how a collapse is likely to play out:

The private debt meltdown of 2008 happened after the election but before BO took office.

Market's perhaps anticipated that it was time to get the hell out of dodge, and as no one wanted to be the last one holding the bag, a complete market failure occurred. It was chalked up to poor government oversight and personal irresponsibility of borrowers. Some have pointed out the Bush administration's attitudes toward regulation and oversight, but those particulars are too much for the Average American to care about.

So what happens if RobMe gets elected with a promise to declare China a currency manipulator on Day 1. Well, you can be damn well sure that markets can anticipate this one: there will be a massive spike in interest rates as cheap borrowing from China dries up. We will have a public debt crisis in the last months of the Obama administration, undermining four hard years of gradually slogging back to stability. The Republicans will attempt to blame the latest collapse on the Obama administration, and the dupe Average American will probably buy their line of crap.

There will be no invasion of Iran to worry about, because the US won't be able to even maintain its current level of military spending. We will be sunk in the second coming of Herbert Hoover. Massive inflation uncertainty will cause consumer discretionary spending to evaporate. Jobs will be hemorrhaged, this time not to outsourcing, but to complete economic collapse, along with massive devaluation of US corporations. A fierce guard dog, a payoff to the local political / crime bosses, and a Smith and Wesson will be the only investments that most Americans will be making.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:33 PM

29. a bully can sense fear this is his best weapon

the reason we are nervous is when you look down,we think its so far down,the repug do not have this problem because they are looking up ,its easy if you lift up your head .confidence is something you feel .people fear the election maybe stolen will the machines i believe obama has planned for this possibility, he read national security briefings daily ,nsa reads all electronic tranmissions .big cyber-security ,planning and action is called luck by the uninformed,

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:40 PM

31. A Robme win means another STOLEN election and a WARmonger in office.

The man can't get thru 3 debates without melting down.

SURE HE'S the one we want with his finger on the button - NOT.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:07 PM

32. I'm nervous because bush stole it 2x and Rmoney's son owns voting machines

that will be counting votes in swing states. We should not have privatized anything involved in our voting process.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:10 PM

33. We care about the Country, they care about winning and nothing else

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:44 PM

35. Romney would act as a King...

and not a President. I thought we were thru with the nobles telling us what to do?

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:50 PM

36. The history of RW monarchies often includes no Happy Ending for the monarch n/t

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:59 AM

37. You've only scratched the surface, the obvious.

 

Another four years of the Bush* chickenhawks and corporatists in charge, and we're screwn.

Think about it.

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