PPP tied at 48

This poll isn't credible.

When this poll was in our favor we were promoting them. Now that it is a tie or (prior: against us) we pick at them and point out their flaws.

You do realize that polls may not always be in our favor all the time.

Take the good and the bad.

It's only been in recent weeks that we had reason to look more closely at the methods used to estimate these numbers. And estimations is all they are, for better or worse.

Welcome to DU. Same thing to Texas CPA (Sept 19).

...is trying to tell those of us who have been watching this for a long time how to evaluate pollsters who have either had a very difficult time getting good data and/or have outright skewed data for political reasons.

...if you're going to disparage a poll because you suddenly don't like the results its giving you, perhaps you can provide a reason that a polling company which has historically worked for Democratic campaigns and liberal causes, would all of a sudden be skewing their polling data.

Or, you could accept that 1) its a close election, 2) endless polling is going to create a lot of statistical noise and outliers as a matter of course, and 3) the issue is not the polling result on a given day, but the polling trands over time.

"Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence."

Robocallers are missing over thirty percent of the population who do not have land lines. It is not unfathomable this fact does affect their surveys.

Survey USA who has a strong track record used to be robocall only but now they also call cell phones. And in their crosstabs you can see Democrats do much better among cell phone only households. I am sure PPP, Rass and the other robocallers weight their polls but weighting introduces problems of its own,ergo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-political-polls/2012/10/12/21408264-13de-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story_1.html

It is illegal to call a cell phone using an automated response mechanism unless you agreed in advance to be called,

If the President can stay around close to a tie in the popular vote, he's the odds on favorite to win this election due to his strength in the swing states.

I know i saw them there before.

...has shown a strong move toward Obams in first post-debate day of interviews. Coincidence, or ???

PPP +2
RAND +2
Reuters/Ipsos +1
Ras 0

waiting for
Gallup
TIPP
Washington Post / ABC New

Hopefully, we can get a lasting bump in the polls. Last week's debate bump whiffed out quickly.

It will take a couple days to show up.

These updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, approximately two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were completed before the end of Monday night’s presidential debate. The single night of interviews conducted after the debate is similar to the two-point advantage Romney has enjoyed recently rather than the current four-point spread.