2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is Hillary Clinton taking credit for the Fight for $15.?
Hillary Clinton will be joining New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Monday for a rally in the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center at 11 a.m. to celebrate the historic $15/hour minimum wage legislation. Speaking as someone who worked for the Fight for $15 from the very first action in NYC, let me explain why this is an appalling betrayal of workers.
Fast-food workers marched in the streets and shut down stores for years, while an army of online supporters shared viral photos, memes, and news. And we did it again and again. Despite all odds and haters telling us that a $15 minimum wage would never happen and still telling us that we should be realistic we started winning and never looked back.
Fight for $15 is arguably the greatest union victory in decades, perhaps even the greatest victory of the progressive movement in recent history. One of those victories came eight months ago, when the Democratic Party adopted a $15/hour minimum wage in the official party platform, weeks after Bernie Sanders introduced legislation in Congress.
By contrast, Hillary Clinton is the only prominent Democrat who refused to endorse $15/hour. Bernie Sanders wont remind people of this, so I will: He was in the streets with fast-food workers every time. Theres photos of him marching with workers in the pouring fucking rain, and hes the one who pushed Democrats to adopt it. Yet, Hillary Clinton will be on the stage tomorrow for the victory moment.
http://usuncut.com/politics/hillary-15-hour-minimum-wage/
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Response to morningfog (Reply #1)
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840high
(17,196 posts).THAT^
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)that Hillay going for $12 represented some kind of a realistic, astute position.
Evolution... gotta love it.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Because she's a liar and things like this don't phase her. Stealing comes easy when your name is Clinton.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Cuomo is a piece of shit of the first water. Hi definitely is NOT his father, who must be turning over in his grave seeing his disgusting spawn.
Cuomo and Clinton are two peas in a pod. They are lying, manipulating, egotistical, power hungry politicians first, last and always.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)but she will pretend she was all for it so she can get votes for other people's work. This is yet another reason why I don't support Hillary. It turns my stomach just thinking about it.
Jackilope
(819 posts)We know damn well that she wasn't for $15, just like she claims Medicare for all can't be done. Why was she invited on stage and not Sanders, who has been speaking for us on that?
Grrrrrrrrrr.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)you exactly why she has been invite while Bernie has not.
See "How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties" by Margot Kidder.
I hope that they boo her or turn their backs.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)No compunction about lying and hypocrisy.
Perogie
(687 posts)Hillary was too afraid to support the $15 and even stated it
Im more comfortable saying lets get to $12, Clinton said at Grinnell, in a reasonable, expeditious way.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-raise-federal-minimum-wage-to-12-per-hour_us_56394247e4b0411d306eca12
How do we expect her to fight for us when she's too afraid to stand up to the big corporations and only jumps on the bandwagon after everyone else does the heavy lifting.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)that she is the true progressive, right?
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)I guess.....
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)But I don't think she's fooling very many voters.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Posted 6 links stating otherwise, they continued to repeat the talking point
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)is she not taking credit for her speeches to the banksters, or her term at Wal-Mart?
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)She still hasn't gotten the positive press she deserves for inspiring Sir Edmund Hillary to climb Mount Everest, and here she spent all those years fighting to raise the minimum wage while dodging sniper fire and studiously refusing all Wall Street money on principle, and she can't even get a "thank you" from fellow Democrats?
What's this world coming to?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)almost joined the marines.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)This is what she said at the Andrew Cuomo event:
Clinton called it a great day for our state and predicted the movement will sweep our country.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/04/04/clinton-cuomo-minimum-wage-law/
How could anyone support such an unethical candidate like this?
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Kall
(615 posts)after she said the movement would sweep the country, she didn't add "unless I have something to say about it."
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)But I sure hope other people say it and say it LOUDLY. This is just so wrong that she steps in to take credit for this. Just when you think you've seen it all she does something else vile like this.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Karma13612
(4,549 posts)I betcha Cuomo made darn sure it got passed in NY state just now, so it looks like it was Hillary.
I just watched footage of Cuomo announcing it, and Hillary was right there next to him, in Albany.
I almost needed a new television.
And what I SCREAMED at the screen would have gotten me alerted and sent to my room here on DU.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)mvd
(65,170 posts)$15/hour is not too much regardless of what area you live in. $15/hour should be a good place to end up IMO - except it could go higher in periods of high inflation.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)"I must find out where my people are going," says the aristocrat, "so I may lead them!"
That was posted on FB in regard to Hillary's actions on this and most other issues.
Jackilope
(819 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Are you some religious fundamentalist creationist or something, that you can't understand?
She will explain how she's now in favor of $15/hr, in an incrementalist way where the gov't that she runs has concluded that $12/hr is the limit of pragmatic projections of what is realistic.
Unlike religious fundamentalist creationists, Hillary Clinton is scientific.
insta8er
(960 posts)but yet a defense... Words like incrementalist, pragmatic projections etc. are there to give it some sort of an air of legitimacy. Good for you Sir or Madam, I am not impressed.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Because putting a "sarcasm" emoticon on it spoils it.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and the most likely reason her supporters love her so, as Trumps do him.
Bernie should do a commercial using her old comments about how unrealistic this goal was with her newfound love of that figure.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)HRC has said she is for a $12 Fed minimum wage so as not to unduly hurt small businesses. She is also in favor of states determining their own state minimum wages. So why the big shit storm? She is happy with the NY $15 minimum. Fed min wage has ramifications for all sorts of business, especially small businesses.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)New York does have small business, ya know. So she wants to "unduly hurt" small businesses there but doesn't want to "undul;y hurt" small businesses nationally?
That's ridiculous.
I suypport a $15 minimum wage. But her idea of state-by-state puts a state like New York at a competitive disadvantage. That's why we need a NATIONAL one.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)that she is for $15/hr, but won't come
clean that her plan leaves it to the
individual states.
Will people be fooled? Of course, that is
what she is counting on.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)...that Obama stole the national Public Option from John Edwards during campaign 2008....because America loved it and it was polling well.
Of course, we all know what happened to Obama's "fight" for the the National Public Option as soon as he sat down in the Oval Office. He couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)as the cause!
bvar22
(39,909 posts)He was the head of the Senate Committee studying the Health Insurance Reform.
Any discussion of Single payer or Medicare Expansion was forbidden at these "discussions.
10 Doctors and Nurses that were advocates of expanding Medicare showed up at the hearing and each asked WHY the discussion of expanding Medicare was not allowed.
Max Baucus had them thrown out and arrested by the capital Police.
<snip>
"Despite polling that shows a clear majority of public and physician support for a single-payer system, Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chair of the Senate Finance Committee, has stated on multiple occasions that single payer is off the table of health reform.
Todays round table, the second of three, consisted of 15 witnesses with no single-payer advocates among them. By contrast, several witnesses have direct ties to the for-profit, private health insurance industry.
The doctors and activists were dressed in black, which they said was in memory of the 22,000 people who die every year due to lack of health insurance. They represented a coalition of single-payer advocacy organizations including Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP), Healthcare-NOW, Single Payer Action, Private Health Insurance Must Go, the Campaign for Fresh Air and Clean Politics, Prosperity Agenda, and Health Care for the Homeless.
Health insurance administrators are practicing medicine without a medical license, said Dr. Margaret Flowers, co-chair of Maryland chapter of PNHP. The result is the suffering and death of thousands of patients for the sake of private profit. The private health insurance industry has a solid grip on patients, providers and legislators. It is time to stand up and declare that health care is a human right.
<snip>
Katie Robbins, assistant national coordinator of Healthcare-NOW, said: The current discussion on health reform is political theater at its best. Our elected officials are hosting these events to go through the motions of what developing effective national health policy should look like. There is a big difference between getting health policy experts in the room and the witnesses here today who would profit the most from reform. That difference means our hard-earned dollars will go to further insurance industry profits, not to guarantee health care to the American people.
<more>
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/may/doctors_protest_excl.php
Max Baucus was well rewarded for his treachery against the American People.
President Obama rewarded him with the Ambassadorship to CHINA!!!
This was a strange choice since Baucus does not speak Chinese, and knows little about China beyond our Trade Treaties.
This spot is biggest plum that any President can hand out to anyone. Most retiring politicians would kill for this gift. Old Max will now be able to fill up a bunch of off shore accounts with this cushy posting.
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)2013, and Democrats have been supporting him?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/raise-the-wage
This is a DEMOCRATIC victory, not one for a single individual
AzDar
(14,023 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)incrementally. Both California and New York are doing these increases incrementally, not at one time.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)to implement.
amborin
(16,631 posts)corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)SEIU is an organization I generally respect but it had no business quoting HRC on $15 when she criticized Sanders in an early debate, citing her expert as saying that $12 was safer.
jfern
(5,204 posts)CanadaexPat
(496 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)dubyadiprecession
(5,705 posts)Vermont??
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)mia
(8,360 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)lol
lostnfound
(16,170 posts)L
B Calm
(28,762 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Sleazy dishonesry is a Clinton family value.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)stones. I'm sure her supporters have conveniently forgotten her vocal stance from just a couple weeks ago.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)democrank
(11,092 posts).