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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:40 PM Apr 2016

Why is Hillary Clinton taking credit for the Fight for $15.?

Hillary Clinton will be joining New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Monday for a rally in the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center at 11 a.m. to celebrate the historic $15/hour minimum wage legislation. Speaking as someone who worked for the Fight for $15 from the very first action in NYC, let me explain why this is an appalling betrayal of workers.

Fast-food workers marched in the streets and shut down stores for years, while an army of online supporters shared viral photos, memes, and news. And we did it again and again. Despite all odds and haters telling us that a $15 minimum wage would never happen — and still telling us that we should be “realistic” — we started winning and never looked back.

Fight for $15 is arguably the greatest union victory in decades, perhaps even the greatest victory of the progressive movement in recent history. One of those victories came eight months ago, when the Democratic Party adopted a $15/hour minimum wage in the official party platform, weeks after Bernie Sanders introduced legislation in Congress.



By contrast, Hillary Clinton is the only prominent Democrat who refused to endorse $15/hour. Bernie Sanders won’t remind people of this, so I will: He was in the streets with fast-food workers every time. There’s photos of him marching with workers in the pouring fucking rain, and he’s the one who pushed Democrats to adopt it. Yet, Hillary Clinton will be on the stage tomorrow for the victory moment.

http://usuncut.com/politics/hillary-15-hour-minimum-wage/

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Why is Hillary Clinton taking credit for the Fight for $15.? (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 OP
Because she is a political opportunist with no shame. morningfog Apr 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #11
.... 840high Apr 2016 #45
It's funny. Just yesterday, a Hillarite was telling me that $15 was a silly and impossible goal and Bonobo Apr 2016 #66
Mind reader! nt PonyUp Apr 2016 #59
This sums it up nicely ^^^^^^ LiberalElite Apr 2016 #40
Because she has no morales Politicalboi Apr 2016 #2
Because that's what she does. She's shameless to the point of being ridiculous. reformist2 Apr 2016 #24
So is Cuomo. I live in NY. pangaia Apr 2016 #38
Shamelessness & dishonesty. pacalo Apr 2016 #3
Not only will she be there noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #4
For those in the audience, I wonder how she will be received. Jackilope Apr 2016 #5
Don't know how to link to it but DU has a thread that tells jwirr Apr 2016 #26
Cronyism...The Cuomos and the Clintons go waaaaay back. AzDar Apr 2016 #42
Because she has no shame. Punkingal Apr 2016 #6
Because Hillary Clinton is a Shill Perogie Apr 2016 #7
Shes a bottom feeding opportunist Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #8
That must be a long list of "progressive values" because we are reminded over and over pdsimdars Apr 2016 #20
in some twisted Orwellian alternate universe Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #56
"True progressive" is what she is today. Next week: "sensible centrist". (NT) jack_krass Apr 2016 #71
Hillary proves again and again that she's a total fraud. Broward Apr 2016 #9
Unbelievable. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #10
some here say we are lying and she was always for it Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #15
They've been using "1984" as a training manual Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #35
Do you have to ask? Why... JackRiddler Apr 2016 #12
Give her some due credit please AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #13
Her actions alone should tell us all exactly how much she deserves to be President. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #21
The one that always makes me laugh - she 840high Apr 2016 #46
Dishonorable noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #14
I'm guessing Kall Apr 2016 #17
You Know She Didn't noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #19
People do things like that when they know the masses don't know any better. Republican playbook. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #16
Can you spell "Opportunist"? Karma13612 Apr 2016 #18
When you get $250,000 for one speech, you don't see much difference between $12 and $15. nt nichomachus Apr 2016 #22
She said, "I'm going to take this 15/hr to Washington" what happened to 12/hr? pantsonfire Apr 2016 #23
But she has said nothing in favor of a national minimum wage of $15/hour mvd Apr 2016 #25
A French aristocrat who sees an angry mob run by. Autumn Apr 2016 #27
Brilliant!!! Jackilope Apr 2016 #29
Look, she evolved. Evolution happens! delrem Apr 2016 #28
I knew there had to be one that would come up with some sort of a defense, a lame one in my opinion. insta8er Apr 2016 #31
I refuse to put a "sarcasm" tag on something like that. OK? delrem Apr 2016 #41
Oops.. n/t insta8er Apr 2016 #62
Lmao warrprayer Apr 2016 #54
she's what we use to call a plastic person, which is one of her more admirable attributes stupidicus Apr 2016 #30
She isn't taking credit for it! What, do you want her to say she is against it? Jitter65 Apr 2016 #32
Given cost of living in NY, shouldn't it be higher? Wondering... snowy owl Apr 2016 #49
Do you understand the hypocrisy in that statement? Armstead Apr 2016 #58
So from now on she may pronounce sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #33
She scurries around stealing credit while her campaign berns. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #34
Hillary is taking credit for the $15 min wage for the same reason... bvar22 Apr 2016 #36
they had people thrown out! and everyone just figures that "the president's not omnipotent I guess" MisterP Apr 2016 #69
That was Senator Max Baucus. bvar22 Apr 2016 #73
Why? Because shameless. TheDormouse Apr 2016 #37
considering it's actually the PRESIDENT who called for increases to the minimum wage in DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #39
Right. Except $Hill is one Democrat who DIDN'T support it... AzDar Apr 2016 #43
She supported it in the form it's happening DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #44
We have $15 min in Seattle. Socialist on City Council got it for us. I Love Socialists. snowy owl Apr 2016 #47
Without MSM, so hard to educate people. Fly banner over NY-"Bernie first for $15 min wage" snowy owl Apr 2016 #48
She's emulating her buddy Phil Gramm. She's Hillstanding. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #50
She's a lying weasel lady. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #51
LOL azmom Apr 2016 #67
because it will take 12 years warrprayer Apr 2016 #52
perprating fraud, as she did in Nevada: amborin Apr 2016 #53
SEIU Screwed Up That One corbettkroehler Apr 2016 #78
She's a fraud who likes to get credit for other people's hard work. jfern Apr 2016 #55
She's tuckered out from all the parades she has to get out in front of. CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #57
Who could ever vote for this shameless carpetbagger? PonyUp Apr 2016 #60
Bernie is from NY, Yet he is the senator from.. dubyadiprecession Apr 2016 #63
She has no conscience whatsoever & doesn't care who suffers under her heel. PonyUp Apr 2016 #61
That's what carpetbaggers do. n/t mia Apr 2016 #64
all of the above SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #65
Same reason as W in a flight suit - photo op? lostnfound Apr 2016 #68
Without Bernie in the picture she would be headed in another direction. B Calm Apr 2016 #70
Because that the kinds of things lying lies do. 99Forever Apr 2016 #72
Hillary has some serious fucking... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #74
Because she said the word "fifteen" at least once in her life. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #75
She didn't. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #76
She`s a shameless opportunist. democrank Apr 2016 #77

Response to morningfog (Reply #1)

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
66. It's funny. Just yesterday, a Hillarite was telling me that $15 was a silly and impossible goal and
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

that Hillay going for $12 represented some kind of a realistic, astute position.

Evolution... gotta love it.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. Because she has no morales
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

Because she's a liar and things like this don't phase her. Stealing comes easy when your name is Clinton.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
38. So is Cuomo. I live in NY.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:06 PM
Apr 2016

Cuomo is a piece of shit of the first water. Hi definitely is NOT his father, who must be turning over in his grave seeing his disgusting spawn.

Cuomo and Clinton are two peas in a pod. They are lying, manipulating, egotistical, power hungry politicians first, last and always.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
4. Not only will she be there
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

but she will pretend she was all for it so she can get votes for other people's work. This is yet another reason why I don't support Hillary. It turns my stomach just thinking about it.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
5. For those in the audience, I wonder how she will be received.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

We know damn well that she wasn't for $15, just like she claims Medicare for all can't be done. Why was she invited on stage and not Sanders, who has been speaking for us on that?

Grrrrrrrrrr.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. Don't know how to link to it but DU has a thread that tells
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

you exactly why she has been invite while Bernie has not.

See "How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties" by Margot Kidder.

I hope that they boo her or turn their backs.

Perogie

(687 posts)
7. Because Hillary Clinton is a Shill
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary was too afraid to support the $15 and even stated it

“I’m more comfortable saying let’s get to $12,” Clinton said at Grinnell, “in a reasonable, expeditious way.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-raise-federal-minimum-wage-to-12-per-hour_us_56394247e4b0411d306eca12

How do we expect her to fight for us when she's too afraid to stand up to the big corporations and only jumps on the bandwagon after everyone else does the heavy lifting.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
20. That must be a long list of "progressive values" because we are reminded over and over
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:14 PM
Apr 2016

that she is the true progressive, right?

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
15. some here say we are lying and she was always for it
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

Posted 6 links stating otherwise, they continued to repeat the talking point

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
12. Do you have to ask? Why...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:50 PM
Apr 2016

is she not taking credit for her speeches to the banksters, or her term at Wal-Mart?

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
13. Give her some due credit please
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

She still hasn't gotten the positive press she deserves for inspiring Sir Edmund Hillary to climb Mount Everest, and here she spent all those years fighting to raise the minimum wage while dodging sniper fire and studiously refusing all Wall Street money on principle, and she can't even get a "thank you" from fellow Democrats?

What's this world coming to?

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
14. Dishonorable
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

This is what she said at the Andrew Cuomo event:

Clinton called it “a great day for our state” and predicted the movement will “sweep our country.”

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/04/04/clinton-cuomo-minimum-wage-law/

How could anyone support such an unethical candidate like this?

un·scru·pu·lous
ˌənˈskro͞opyələs/
adjective
adjective: unscrupulous

having or showing no moral principles; not honest or fair.
synonyms:unprincipled, unethical, immoral, conscienceless, shameless, reprobate, exploitative, corrupt, dishonest, dishonorable, deceitful, devious, underhanded, unsavory, disreputable, evil, wicked, villainous, Machiavellian; More

Kall

(615 posts)
17. I'm guessing
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

after she said the movement would sweep the country, she didn't add "unless I have something to say about it."

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
19. You Know She Didn't
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

But I sure hope other people say it and say it LOUDLY. This is just so wrong that she steps in to take credit for this. Just when you think you've seen it all she does something else vile like this.

Karma13612

(4,549 posts)
18. Can you spell "Opportunist"?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

I betcha Cuomo made darn sure it got passed in NY state just now, so it looks like it was Hillary.

I just watched footage of Cuomo announcing it, and Hillary was right there next to him, in Albany.

I almost needed a new television.

And what I SCREAMED at the screen would have gotten me alerted and sent to my room here on DU.



mvd

(65,170 posts)
25. But she has said nothing in favor of a national minimum wage of $15/hour
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

$15/hour is not too much regardless of what area you live in. $15/hour should be a good place to end up IMO - except it could go higher in periods of high inflation.

Autumn

(45,042 posts)
27. A French aristocrat who sees an angry mob run by.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

"I must find out where my people are going," says the aristocrat, "so I may lead them!"

That was posted on FB in regard to Hillary's actions on this and most other issues.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
28. Look, she evolved. Evolution happens!
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:34 PM
Apr 2016

Are you some religious fundamentalist creationist or something, that you can't understand?
She will explain how she's now in favor of $15/hr, in an incrementalist way where the gov't that she runs has concluded that $12/hr is the limit of pragmatic projections of what is realistic.
Unlike religious fundamentalist creationists, Hillary Clinton is scientific.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
31. I knew there had to be one that would come up with some sort of a defense, a lame one in my opinion.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:40 PM
Apr 2016

but yet a defense... Words like incrementalist, pragmatic projections etc. are there to give it some sort of an air of legitimacy. Good for you Sir or Madam, I am not impressed.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
41. I refuse to put a "sarcasm" tag on something like that. OK?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:11 PM
Apr 2016

Because putting a "sarcasm" emoticon on it spoils it.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
30. she's what we use to call a plastic person, which is one of her more admirable attributes
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:38 PM
Apr 2016

and the most likely reason her supporters love her so, as Trumps do him.

Bernie should do a commercial using her old comments about how unrealistic this goal was with her newfound love of that figure.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
32. She isn't taking credit for it! What, do you want her to say she is against it?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:42 PM
Apr 2016

HRC has said she is for a $12 Fed minimum wage so as not to unduly hurt small businesses. She is also in favor of states determining their own state minimum wages. So why the big shit storm? She is happy with the NY $15 minimum. Fed min wage has ramifications for all sorts of business, especially small businesses.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
58. Do you understand the hypocrisy in that statement?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

New York does have small business, ya know. So she wants to "unduly hurt" small businesses there but doesn't want to "undul;y hurt" small businesses nationally?

That's ridiculous.

I suypport a $15 minimum wage. But her idea of state-by-state puts a state like New York at a competitive disadvantage. That's why we need a NATIONAL one.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
33. So from now on she may pronounce
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:48 PM
Apr 2016

that she is for $15/hr, but won't come
clean that her plan leaves it to the
individual states.

Will people be fooled? Of course, that is
what she is counting on.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
36. Hillary is taking credit for the $15 min wage for the same reason...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

...that Obama stole the national Public Option from John Edwards during campaign 2008....because America loved it and it was polling well.

Of course, we all know what happened to Obama's "fight" for the the National Public Option as soon as he sat down in the Oval Office. He couldn't get rid of it fast enough.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
69. they had people thrown out! and everyone just figures that "the president's not omnipotent I guess"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

as the cause!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
73. That was Senator Max Baucus.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

He was the head of the Senate Committee studying the Health Insurance Reform.
Any discussion of Single payer or Medicare Expansion was forbidden at these "discussions.
10 Doctors and Nurses that were advocates of expanding Medicare showed up at the hearing and each asked WHY the discussion of expanding Medicare was not allowed.

Max Baucus had them thrown out and arrested by the capital Police.


<snip>

"Despite polling that shows a clear majority of public and physician support for a single-payer system, Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chair of the Senate Finance Committee, has stated on multiple occasions that single payer is “off the table” of health reform.

Today’s round table, the second of three, consisted of 15 witnesses with no single-payer advocates among them. By contrast, several witnesses have direct ties to the for-profit, private health insurance industry.

The doctors and activists were dressed in black, which they said was in memory of the 22,000 people who die every year due to lack of health insurance. They represented a coalition of single-payer advocacy organizations including Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP), Healthcare-NOW, Single Payer Action, Private Health Insurance Must Go, the Campaign for Fresh Air and Clean Politics, Prosperity Agenda, and Health Care for the Homeless.

“Health insurance administrators are practicing medicine without a medical license,” said Dr. Margaret Flowers, co-chair of Maryland chapter of PNHP. “The result is the suffering and death of thousands of patients for the sake of private profit. The private health insurance industry has a solid grip on patients, providers and legislators. It is time to stand up and declare that health care is a human right.”

<snip>

Katie Robbins, assistant national coordinator of Healthcare-NOW, said: “The current discussion on health reform is political theater at its best. Our elected officials are hosting these events to go through the motions of what developing effective national health policy should look like. There is a big difference between getting health policy experts in the room and the witnesses here today who would profit the most from reform. That difference means our hard-earned dollars will go to further insurance industry profits, not to guarantee health care to the American people.”

<more>

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/may/doctors_protest_excl.php


Max Baucus was well rewarded for his treachery against the American People.
President Obama rewarded him with the Ambassadorship to CHINA!!!
This was a strange choice since Baucus does not speak Chinese, and knows little about China beyond our Trade Treaties.

This spot is biggest plum that any President can hand out to anyone. Most retiring politicians would kill for this gift. Old Max will now be able to fill up a bunch of off shore accounts with this cushy posting.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
39. considering it's actually the PRESIDENT who called for increases to the minimum wage in
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:06 PM
Apr 2016

2013, and Democrats have been supporting him?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/raise-the-wage

This is a DEMOCRATIC victory, not one for a single individual

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
44. She supported it in the form it's happening
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016

incrementally. Both California and New York are doing these increases incrementally, not at one time.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
78. SEIU Screwed Up That One
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

SEIU is an organization I generally respect but it had no business quoting HRC on $15 when she criticized Sanders in an early debate, citing her expert as saying that $12 was safer.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
74. Hillary has some serious fucking...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

stones. I'm sure her supporters have conveniently forgotten her vocal stance from just a couple weeks ago.

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