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fencesitter

(1,106 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:30 PM Oct 2012

Lawn signs I donunderstand.

There are lots of lawn signs around here in the Philadelphia suburbs that say "Keep America Free! Fire Obama." I need to ask these sign posters...
Free from what? Has something happened in the past four years or possibly in the next four years that has caused you to be less free? I'd really like to know. No, not some paranoid delusion, something real.
These signs are on some very nice properties. And some not so nice too.

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Lawn signs I donunderstand. (Original Post) fencesitter Oct 2012 OP
Fox "News" tells them what to believe. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #1
They don't know either ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #2
Poor people are receiving health care. Jester Messiah Oct 2012 #3
Boom. genna Oct 2012 #4
We have these in Ohio Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #5
Obama is coming for their guns and bibles. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #6
Same thing here in the suburbs of Cleveland nobunnyclue Oct 2012 #7
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
3. Poor people are receiving health care.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012

Obviously, this means we have swapped Freedom for Tyranny. How can we countenance that children should receive handouts while hardworking insurance executives are struggling to pay for their second and third homes!?

 

Firebirds01

(576 posts)
5. We have these in Ohio
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012

They want to be free to tell you who to love, what to do with your bodies, when/how to have sex, what medical choices you can use, on and on and on.

nobunnyclue

(103 posts)
7. Same thing here in the suburbs of Cleveland
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:48 PM
Oct 2012

I can only guess they mean "free" to do business without regard for the benefits these people receive from having a stable society with a huge amount of the public machine functioning solely to enforce private property rights.

The underlying political philosophy goes something like this: My moral righteousness will be upheld by a society of like-minded tea-baggers to the degree that I will be permitted to freely pass judgment on you when you freely act or speak in a way that violates said moral code of our majority, therefore we need no state or tyrannical RULE OF LAW and/or regulations to maintain a more efficient social order.

Ugh, it makes my skin crawl to think about it. The next thing it makes me do is start thinking about getting the hell out of here if the trend doesn't reverse, because unfortunately the appeal of this moralist-utopian anarchist thinking seems to be just sucking in more and more people, with the risk being a massive social upheaval on the order of a collapse of the rule of law following a pervasive rise in organized economic-based crime. Then see how a no-problem deficit become the kiss of death when the US can't sell its bonds. Ironically, the moralists use this danger to bolster their claims of righteousness: "See how those lazy socialist bastards are predicting there will be riots if Obama loses... they don't respect the law!" cries the tea-bagging conservative. Well, not quite. Antagonizing people to the point of total disenfranchisement will result in them taking up non-political means to achieve their ambitions, namely looting and rioting, combined with a healthy does of black market trade and protection rackets. Something that most other countries struggle to keep in check, but in the US a victory that was decisively won years ago and now is completely taken for granted.

But if the shoe were on the other foot, Mr. I-answer-only-to-God moralist, you would not hesitate to deprive persons of their life, liberty and property whenever it might be sanctioned by your source of moral authority (usually 50% from Fox news and 25% from the guy up there on Sunday with the robes who knows how to get into heaven, and 25% from the inner ego). When the "illegal" immigrant seeks amnesty, the answer is "No, you broke the law. No exceptions". But if the law is "Don't dump your toxic shit into the watershed we have to drink from", or that you can't own a gun without having a background check, or even "you have to provide access to contraception as a health insurer" then the response is "That law was invalid due to superseding, higher authority." Perhaps something Thomas Jefferson wrote 200 years ago, perhaps a legal argument headed for the Supreme Court, or perhaps someone's interpretation of a Holy book. Well, I'm no ordained minister, but there is one Holy teaching even I know: love your neighbor. That doesn't sound like intimidating people into voting for your party Mr. Romney, or like intimidating people into self-deporting from this country.

All this, and until recently I considered myself a god-damned conservative. So I will shut up now and go clean my kitchen.

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