Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:42 PM
grantcart (38,728 posts)
Republican Insiders begin to prepare for post MI primary meltdownLast edited Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
edited to add PPP latest tweet "Santorum leading on the first night of our new Michigan poll, but much closer than we found there a week ago."
Romney's inevitable meltdown is coming earlier than predicted. Even if he wins Michigan it will be at such a cost in treasure and reputation that it will become the new political definition of Pyrrhic Victories. The establishment is begining to forsee a process that would go to Santorum or Gingrich. Fear is palpable in the country club class. Multiple senior sources are begining to leak alternative plans if Romney fails in Michigan;
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| grantcart | Feb 2012 | OP | |
| monmouth | Feb 2012 | #1 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Feb 2012 | #2 | |
| oldhippydude | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
| grantcart | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
| joshcryer | Feb 2012 | #5 | |
| bleever | Feb 2012 | #6 | |
| Drunken Irishman | Feb 2012 | #7 | |
| Drunken Irishman | Feb 2012 | #8 | |
| davidpdx | Feb 2012 | #9 | |
| Denninmi | Feb 2012 | #10 | |
| davidpdx | Feb 2012 | #15 | |
| DCBob | Feb 2012 | #11 | |
| grantcart | Feb 2012 | #13 | |
| DFW | Feb 2012 | #12 | |
| NYC Liberal | Feb 2012 | #14 |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:45 PM
monmouth (21,078 posts)
1. I wonder how Santorum will take this..Kind of a slap in the face if he should win MI..n/t
Response to monmouth (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:59 PM
southernyankeebelle (10,679 posts)
2. It would be fun for a brokered convention. Hilarious if they pick quitter Palin. I know they
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wouldn't but it sure would be fun.
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Response to monmouth (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:01 PM
oldhippydude (2,514 posts)
3. it will be truth...
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God told Santorum to run.. guess Santorum has no chioce but run do its consistancy
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:42 PM
grantcart (38,728 posts)
4. More bad news from PPP for Romney
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Behind Santorum in Washington Santorum still up about 10 points on Romney in Washington state through 2 days of our polling there Romney doing weaker in AZ than expected The first night of our polling in Arizona was pretty much a tie between Romney and Santorum Romney still behind in MI Santorum leading on the first night of our new Michigan poll, but much closer than we found there a week ago |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:45 PM
joshcryer (39,719 posts)
5. grantcart, just wanted to thank for your continued analysis.
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It's been fun watching you (not in a stalk-y sort of way, just, the stuff you post).
PS epic stuff ahead. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 10:02 PM
bleever (20,599 posts)
6. I do wonder who qualifies as a "tippy-top" Repub in this post-apocolyptic hellscape they've made
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for themselves.
Someone gnawing animal bones on the highest place in a cave, surrounded by crazed followers banging sticks and rocks together in the light of a bonfire? |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 10:09 PM
Drunken Irishman (24,587 posts)
7. The thing is, the candidate pool will be extremely shallow...
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I hear Jeb's name tossed around and that ain't happening. Jeb is smart and he knows a situation is forming that would be near-toxic for any Republican. If he steps in, wins the nomination and then loses to Obama in November, any hope he had of being president just went out the window.
If Jeb is serious about running, he's eyeing '16 and won't risk blowing it against an increasingly popular president. So, who do they have? Mitch Daniels? Meh. Sarah Palin? Maybe Chris Christie - but even that seems unlikely. |
Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #7)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 10:12 PM
Drunken Irishman (24,587 posts)
8. I also still think Romney will pull Michigan out...
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Barely. But he'll win it.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 02:43 AM
davidpdx (8,777 posts)
9. It's times like these that I want to organize our own version of operation havoc
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and change affiliation for the primary. If this is going to be a long bloody road, why not make it as miserable as possible for them. I'm not sure if it would make any difference though.
I still think Romney would be the better (worst) opponent and am hoping he pulls out of the tailspin his campaign is in. |
Response to davidpdx (Reply #9)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:25 AM
Denninmi (5,558 posts)
10. Well, I definitely want to engage in malicious voting on Feb. 28.
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I'm just not sure which route is best -- Romney because he's the idiot we know best, or Santorum to throw the whole thing into chaos?
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Response to Denninmi (Reply #10)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:52 AM
davidpdx (8,777 posts)
15. Good picture
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I haven't watch South Park in awhile. I guess I'll have to go catch up on episodes.
I'm not sure what I would do either. At least my primary is not until May, so I have quite a long time before I'd have to make a decision for sure. I could always change my party affiliation and vote for neither and write in Barack Obama. Wouldn't that be funny. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:31 AM
DCBob (14,752 posts)
11. PPP's tweet about the latest poll being much closer than a week ago could be significant.
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I think Santorum may be taking a hit for the contraception controversy. Although Mittens keeps making dumb comments that could offset any gains he might have gotten. It will be interesting to see the next round of polls from Michigan.
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Response to DCBob (Reply #11)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:24 PM
grantcart (38,728 posts)
13. It will get closer, and the fighting will be getting nastier, in other words its a
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win, win, win for us.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:29 AM
DFW (13,327 posts)
12. Don't forget--the Republican candidate gets 42% of the vote even if they nominate Joe The Plumber
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A huge number of voters will automatically vote Republican, no matter if their nominee is Romney or Porky Pig.
It will make NO DIFFERENCE. They will vote how Fox Noise and National Hate Radio tell them to vote. Period. And they are NOT the ones who are being targeted by voter disenfranchisement moves by Republicans or fraudulent programming by electronic voting machines built, programmed, and verified exclusively by Republicans. Ask them why they would prefer Porky Pig over Barack Obama, and they'll spew out some packaged nonsense about taxes, God, Islam, "the birth certificate," Hispanic immigrants, WHATEVER. This is what Obama (and America) is up against. Many fights that deserve to be won are still lost. This is one we dare not get complacent about. Just because common sense says Obama should win this in a cakewalk does not mean common sense will play a huge role here. It sure as hell won't play a role for those planning to vote for the Republican ticket, and there will be tens of millions of them. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:33 PM
NYC Liberal (15,599 posts)
14. Repubs are not pragmatic and will not unite to rally around whichever candidate ends up winning.
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Some of the right-wing base may not have liked McCain, but there was no long drawn-out fight with several other semi-viable candidates in the running. They were not split into factions as deeply as they are this year. And even if they really did hate McCain as much as they do Romney, there's also the potential attitude of, "We held our noses once; we're not going to do it two elections in a row."
So whoever wins, a good portion of Repub voters will stay home. |

