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Related: About this forumPolls have moved little in battleground states because they already dislike Romney?
This argument makes some sense to me:
One of the interesting facts about recent polls is that the national polls are swinging around while the battleground state polls are pretty stable, and mostly favor Obama. Ohios a good example, where Romneys current +2.3 advantage in the nationwide vote is not mirrored in Obamas still razor-thin Obama winning margin.
My take on this is simple: the Obama campaign has been and will be spending money and time in states where winning matters, and in those states, their ads and ground game are working. The debate and the ensuing coverage moved voters who had an ill-defined picture of Romney. Places where Romney had already been defined by months of advertising, free media, candidate appearances and voter outreach were less likely to buy what Romney was selling. Greg Sargent:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/10/12/pollyanna-sunshine-checking-in/
My take on this is simple: the Obama campaign has been and will be spending money and time in states where winning matters, and in those states, their ads and ground game are working. The debate and the ensuing coverage moved voters who had an ill-defined picture of Romney. Places where Romney had already been defined by months of advertising, free media, candidate appearances and voter outreach were less likely to buy what Romney was selling. Greg Sargent:
Geoff Garin, the pollster for the Obama-allied Priorities USA, tells me that his polling shows that views of Romney are more fixed in the battlegrounds than nationally. In the swing states, voters are much more apt and able to quote back the main case against Romney, he tells me.
Garin adds that his polling has tested voter reaction to various arguments against Romney, such as the idea that his economic policies would favor the wealthy or burden the middle class. He says voter agreement with those suggestions is higher where the advertising has occurred, and adds: All the swing state advertising has had a measurable and lasting impact.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/10/12/pollyanna-sunshine-checking-in/
This was something noticed about Romney in the Republican primary: the more people found out about him, the more he was disliked. And the tight states have had so much campaigning in them that there are few low-information voters left in them.
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Polls have moved little in battleground states because they already dislike Romney? (Original Post)
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2012
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The numbers are going to get better for us, and when the President continues next week with the same
still_one
Oct 2012
#1
Yep. The red states are just redder. The swing states and blue states have barely moved at all.
bushisanidiot
Oct 2012
#2
still_one
(92,116 posts)1. The numbers are going to get better for us, and when the President continues next week with the same
facts, it not only will get back to what it was, but better
People know from last night that social security, medicare and the supreme court are going to change everything if the republicans win. It is not going to happen, especially since there really is a war against women by the republicans
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)2. Yep. The red states are just redder. The swing states and blue states have barely moved at all.
Romney doesn't seem to understand that he is losing big time in the electoral vote count.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)3. Some of the blue states are becoming "less" blue
Massachusetts moved from like a 30 point lead to around a 15-point one I believe.