Jon Stewart Trounces Bill O’Reilly in a Debate Full of Surprising Substance

[Tx4obama]

Jon Stewart Trounces Bill O’Reilly in a Debate Full of Surprising Substance

Jon Stewart and Bill O’Reilly got together for a debate for charity, and while comedy was expected, Jon Stewart walked all over Bill O’Reilly in a debate that morphed into a serious discussion.

In the first question of the debate Bill-O was asked if voters are going to make their decision based on the economy. In typical Republican fashion, O’Reilly disagreed with Mitt Romney and said that only 20% of Americans are slackers. O’Reilly also claimed that Obama has spent more money than any president since World War II, a talking point which has been proven false. O’Reilly also told Sandra Fluke to buy her own birth control.

Stewart responded by saying, “Bill O’Reilly is full of sh*t.” Stewart then said that Republicans are living in alternate reality, then talked about the fact that they live on bulls**t mountain. He said there they believe that a Kenyan Muslim is president, they built all their success without any help, and that Christmas is under attack. Stewart said that we have to agree on reality, and got a shot in at Romney for claiming that we can solve the debt crisis by killing Big Bird, and told O’Reilly to talk to his people.

Bill-O groused about NPR, and moaned about income redistribution. Stewart fired back by asking O’Reilly whether Exxon should be forced to compete on their own, and Bill-O agreed with him. O’Reilly claimed the economy is so bad because small business is afraid of Obamacare. The problem with his reasoning is that small businesses actually support Obamacare. Stewart said the things O’Reilly was suggesting are not things that Obama brought. He then highlighted how Bush turned a surplus into debt. O’Reilly’s reply was the typical right wing answer, “Bush is gone.” O’Reilly said that it doesn’t matter what Bush did. It is Obama’s job to get it under control. (Bill-O was suggesting that it is Obama’s job to clean up Bush’s mess.)

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/jon-stewart-trounces-bill-oreilly-debate-full-surprising-substance.html

And here's a link to the HuffPo live-blog
they posted during that debate that contains more tidbits
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/bill-oreilly-jon-stewart-debate-rumble_n_1945567.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003#17_


VIDEO of the FULL DEBATE here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101765203



A 'SHORT CLIP' below

[Indpndnt]

1. Wish I could have seen it.

Sounds like it was great and Jon scored a lot of points.

[Riverman]

3. Me Too! Paid for the Live Show, but streaming was an EPIC FAIL - See Twitter

[high density]

4. I watched it on my Roku

The stream worked OK though framerate was probably only 15fps.

[Grammy23]

18. Watch it here on You tube. It was great!

I laughed and cheered all the way through. Great demonstration that people of differing points of view can talk, argue and debate and still come away as equals. It was fun but enlightening, too.

The link is in the post and other places on DU, too. That's where I watched it.

[wilt the stilt]

2. I'm originally from NY

and I knew assholes like O"Reilly and my best friends from childhood are Jewish. One of my friends wrote for Sesame Street for 15 years and has I think 8 emmys. I will take a Jew over a meathead in a debate any day. Let's put it this way. The smart catholic kids went to Fordham. Marist was a nothing.

[TlalocW]

5. It's good that for the most part comedy wasn't the main focus

First, because it would distract from the points that Stewart was making, and he's a damn intelligent guy and should showcase that. Second because O'Reilly thinks he's as funny (and smart) as Stewart, and whenever they trade quips on the Factor, you always hear laughter coming from off-camera when Stewart speaks, but unfortunately, O'Reilly thinks that's partly for him. When the laughter from Stewart dies down, and Bill tries a joke, it sinks like a lead balloon.

TlalocW

[tdog8]

6. Wish I could have watched it...

For an event so heavily promoted, they had less than adequate preparation and online streaming was unavailable for a lot of people. It was very disappointing. I understand we are supposed to be able to watch later. But we didn't get the service we paid for and it was very disappointing.

I guess we'll watch in whenever it is available.... later.

[davidpdx]

7. Good news, here is the full video

Yes, yes I know I'm so kind and brilliant! Oh stop will you.

[Tx4obama]

8. Thank you for posting that :)

I posted a full version in DU videos earlier tonight and that version was taken off of YouTube,
so I've updated my OP in DU videos with your link!
Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101765203

Thank you

[davidpdx]

9. Here's two more

I'm having a hard time getting the one I posted to load. Probably too many people trying to watch it combined with the fact that my internet speed sucks.

&feature=youtu.be

If you don't mind watching it in parts this might be even better

http://www.youtube.com/user/MISSUNIVERSEMEXICO?feature=CDgQwRs%3D

[HopeHoops]

13. SCORE FOR BILL-O - "Only as strong as CNN"!!!

[HopeHoops]

14. O'Reilly scored again. Australia has required voting. He's right on the requirement there.

[HopeHoops]

15. Shit. I think I actually like O'Reilly now. That was FUNNY - start to finish! And much better than..

... the real presidential debates. They got into SUBSTANCE! They hit serious issues and handled them well with just the right amount of humor on both sides. To Bill-O's defense, he didn't talk over everything like he does on FOX. Stewart was actually rather self-contained (for the most part). They make a good team. Yeah, it took an hour and a half to watch, but it was well worth it.

[davidpdx]

23. I have to admit O'Reilly played along well when Stewart jumped in his lap

when he said "and what would you like for Christmas little boy?" Then of course he shoo'd Stewart back to his seat.

[HopeHoops]

30. That was particularly good, but they played off of each other beautifully. And yet...

... they still addressed real issues and gave well-rounded answers to them (right or wrong) in a way I just didn't see out of any of the presidential debate. Perhaps Obama can borrow Stewart's lift platform for the next debate! I particularly loved O'Reilly calling the audience "pinheads", but they didn't seem to grasp the joke.

[davidpdx]

33. I didn't really expect as much good humor between the two

I thought it would be a knockdown drag out fight. It was surprising, yet pleasant.

[HopeHoops]

34. Yeah, they both seemed to be having fun, despite the serious moments.

[davidpdx]

10. The question about who you would save if the country was burning was hilarious

Stewart got O'Reilly on that one.

[HopeHoops]

16. Yeah, but Oprah? How about Hillary Swank or something.

[davidpdx]

24. I think Bill was playing toward liberals on that answer.

It was perfect because it set Stewart to come back with his answer and drill O'Reilly.

[BlueMTexpat]

11. O'Reilly is the personification of

obnoxiousness. What. A. Jerk.

[HopeHoops]

12. Well, as much as I dislike O'Reilly, good for both of them to do this for charity.

[TeamPooka]

19. Only Stewart's half of the proceeds go to charity. BillO is keeping his half.

it was said by Stewart on his show last week.

[HopeHoops]

20. That's not what I saw. I don't have a link, but I thought it was mutual.

Even still. If even Stewart's half is all that goes to charity, I applaud Bill-O for doing it. I look forward to finding out how much they raised and to which charities it went. But still, it's the first time I've seen Bill-O being moderately "human" in any forum. I particularly liked the Santa Claus thing. I hope they keep up this tradition. I can't stand Bill-O on FOX, but that debate was a riot and far more substantive than the rMoney talk-over "debate".

[TeamPooka]

21. go to the events website and it tells you 1/2 the money goes to charity.

[HopeHoops]

22. I didn't see that link, but I'll trust you. Still, it was entertaining and O'Reilly did well.

He and Jon are a natural combination and Bill-O rarely stretches into the comedy zone. That one was the best I've seen. He was not only receptive of Jon's natural tendency to be, well, weird, but he came up with a SHITLOAD of good jokes on his own. I've just never seen that before. Perhaps he's waking up.

Nah.

[Bjorn Against]

26. O'Reilly was far more likable in this than he is on his show

He knew he was not in front of his normal audience so he moderated himself. What shocked me however was what he said near the end when he started talking about how capitalism increases the partisanship on the airwaves by paying people a lot of money to "spew hate". It almost seemed like an admission that he did not really believe what he says on his show and is just doing it for money.

[Iceberg Louie]

29. Whenever I've seen O'Reilly do an appearance on "The Daily Show"

I've always had the impression he was trying to drop the hint that he doesn't really take himself or his schtick all that seriously. Even when he's in "Factor" mode (on Jon's show), he always sneaks a grin at the end as if to suggest that he knows we know it's all for show. I wonder if he isn't sometimes at odds with the reality that a lot of his core audience does take him deadly seriously. Perhaps not unlike the same internal conflict Dave Chappelle dealt with when faced with a $50 million third season of "Chappelle's Show"...

[HopeHoops]

31. I took it that way too, but I think it was also part of his attempt o distance himself from BecKKK..

and Limbaugh. Perhaps even from Hannity. But yes, it did seem like an admission.

[Tx4obama]

27. One-half of the net profits from "The Rumble 2012" will be donated by Jon and Bill ..

One-half of the net profits from "The Rumble 2012" will be donated by Jon and Bill to benefit charitable causes such as: New York Collaborates for Autism, Wounded Warrior Project, Fisher House Foundation, Alzheimer's Association, Boomer Esiason Foundation, Doctors Without Borders, Tuesday's Children, Portrait Project, NYC Coalition for the Homeless, Project A.L.S., Bob Woodruff Foundation, Haitian Health Foundation, The USO, Responsibility, Childcare, Best Friends Foundation and FealGood Foundation.

http://www.therumble2012.com/index.html

[HopeHoops]

32. Wow. That's an impressive list. Kudos to both of them!!!

[Tx4obama]

28. That is not true because BOTH are donating, he must have been joking. See comment #27 n/t

[ellisonz]

17. Posting so I remember to watch this!

Thanks all!

[and-justice-for-all]

25. Stewart can and will kick your ass..nt