With Antonin Scalia's death, God rest his soul, this is no longer fun and games.

[CajunBlazer]

This nomination race just turned extremely serious. the Republicans in the Senate will never let President Obama name Scalia's successor. The two oldest Justices still on the Court are progressives. Both have had health issues in the past and no one knows how long they will last. A Democrat must win the general election. The direction of the Supreme Court for the next twenty years hangs in the balance.

We can no longer count on improbable dreams coming true. We can no longer wish for on a socialist Revolution. We must win the Presidential election.

[MoonRiver]

1. Yes, this is as serious as it gets.

I do think Obama should take the Senate Rethugs on, and nominate a well qualified liberal to replace Scalia.

[Wilms]

2. Yes, sir!

[LostOne4Ever]

3. Good thing both candidates can kick the Republican butts in the General. Sanders in particular

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[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]I guess you will have to take your avatar's advice and endure that fact.[/font]

[CajunBlazer]

8. Sure, what ever you say....

[LostOne4Ever]

10. :D

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders

[stevenleser]

19. And Mondale was polling even with Reagan at this point and then lost by 18 points.

GE polls at this point mean nothing.

[LostOne4Ever]

24. So what you are saying, is that no one can predict who is and who isn't electable :D nt

[stevenleser]

25. Nope. Generally, far right and far left nominees lose by 15+ points. That's easy to predict. nt

[LostOne4Ever]

28. So again, both democrats can kick Trump or Cruz butt!!! The future is looking bright :D nt

[stevenleser]

30. Nope. Trump and Cruz are both much closer to the mainstream of their parties than Sanders.

Heck, Trump's economic plan was praised by Krugman.

[LostOne4Ever]

36. Which is why the polls show Sanders beating both of them? Right ;D

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]It shows that Bernie is closer to the American Mainstream than EITHER of them.[/font]

PS: @Nope. Trump and Cruz are both much closer to the mainstream of their parties than Sanders.

[CajunBlazer]

42. At least read the previous post before you reply

[LostOne4Ever]

44. I did. :D nt

[CajunBlazer]

76. Okay, then do you have a comprehension problem

or just do you believe that repeating the same thing again and again without any rational behind it somehow makes it true?

[LostOne4Ever]

85. I'm smart enough to know that different conversations can have the same answer :)

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[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]For instance both 64/16 and 2+2 equal 4.

But 64/16 is not the same operation as 2+2. One is division, the other is addition.

In this case my previous mention showed that Sanders is electable. My second mention of the polls shows that Sanders is closer to where the mainstream of American than either Trump or Cruz.

Different questions, same answer. And his reply has no bearing on the fact that as of now Sanders is closer to the mainstream than either Cruz or Trump.[/font]

[Art_from_Ark]

98. Mondale wasn't far left by ANY stretch

Unless taking the then revolutionary step of having the first woman running mate of a major party? can be considered "far left"

?Note-- Angela Davis was Gus Hall's running mate on the Communist Party ticket in both 1980 and 1984.

[Chemisse]

66. But that's before Trump starts smearing Bernie.

I am worried that Bernie is vulnerable, and it may be that a lot of people don't know his plans for increasing benefits/raising taxes.

[bvf]

83. +1

[ret5hd]

4. Bullshit. We have never been playing "fun and games" and you know it.

We are doing nothing less than fighting for the soul of the country.

So, that said, piss on ya".

[CajunBlazer]

18. At best you're trying to win a pyrrhic victory...

This country will not elect a socialist President. This is a wake up call for the Republicans as well. With the Supreme Court clearly at stake, the Tea Partiers will come to their senses and turn to an "electable candidate". And so will the Democrats. Hide and watch.

[ret5hd]

20. Lotsa people saying' different.

[restorefreedom]

5. i agree that winning is imperative

which is why we need bernie more than ever. he beats repubs in head to head match ups better than hillary, and the last thing we need is a vacancy on scotus while the repubs are starting impeachment hearings.

[CajunBlazer]

21. For now maybe, after they Swift Boat him, no way!

The skeletons in Bernie's closet are on display. Everyone knows that if he wins the nomination that media and the Republican Swift Boat agents will have a field day.

[restorefreedom]

27. um, bernie has no skeletons

clintons, otoh.....

well, how big a closet do you have?

[Cassiopeia]

33. Maybe you should contact your candidate and ask her campaign to stop

using those kind of attacks then?

[CajunBlazer]

47. She's going easy on Bernie, wait until the Repugs get a hold of him

it won't be pretty, not at all

[pangaia]

67. Using republicans behavior as a measuring stick for Hillary's behavior

is like using Congo health care as a measuring stick for American health care.

[CajunBlazer]

93. You're exactly right!

So far Bernie has been only lightly scratch by Hillary, the actual slicing and dicing comes in the general election battle. You really want to do subject poor Bernie to that.

[pangaia]

94. I ain't worried at all.

WE SHALL SALLY FORTH !!!

[CajunBlazer]

97. Of course,

It must be bliss to care only about your ideals without once considering the consequences to everyone else of your dream chasing.

[pangaia]

100. Here's a heart for you.

Sounds like you could use one.

[Kentonio]

101. Poor Bernie?

Wow, you really don't know him at all, do you..

He's a fighter who has spent his entire career standing up for what he believes is right, often in the face of massive opposition from both major parties.

Poor Bernie? He'll be relishing this fight.

[CajunBlazer]

102. In case you haven't notice, Bernie isn't Superman

John Kerry was a Vietnam War hero who was awarded three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star bravery for rescuing a Special Services solder under fire, and a Silver Star (one of the military's highest awards for bravery) for charging directly into Vietcong ambush to prevent a rocket attack on his Navy Swift Boats.

The Republican dirty tricks machine used affidavits by other members of his military unit who had no special knowledge of the circumstances and a hastily written book, "Unfit for Command" to not only destroy Kerry's military record in the eyes of the public, but also to successfully paint him as unfit to be Commander in Chief. The "Swift Boating" of John Kerry in large part cost him the Presidency. The fact that each and every allegation made against Kerry was later proved to be false offers little consolation.

If the Republican dirty tricks machine can turn a war hero's military record against him, I can only imagine what they will do with the ammunition Bernie has already handed them.

Multiple reliable publications have all ready published numerous stories about Bernie past that can and will be used against him. I am not going to list them here because on the surface they appear to be so damning to your candidate that I would risk a hide if I listed them. Yes, I am sure that Bernie can and will offer reasonable explanations for each and every charge, but only a few million people will ever hear those explanations Meanwhile, conservative PAC's such as those run by Carl Rove and the Koch brothers will pour tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars in to ads, robo calls, and flyers smearing Bernie. And oh, count on someone writing a book.

I can already guess at your reply. Yes, Hillary has her own weaknesses which the Republicans are sure to try to attack. Hopefully by the general election the truth about her emails will be published for all to see and she can finely put those issues behind her. On the other hand, Bernie will never be able to fully escape documented incidents from his past.

[Kentonio]

104. He won't react in the way you appear to think he will

He's been very gentle with Hillary, but against the Republicans you'll see Bernie in full on prize fighter mode. If you want to see what that's like, go watch some of his house and committee performances.

[CajunBlazer]

107. Bernie is inconsequential Senator from a tiny state with a tiny population

He has no PAC's, no outside money. Up until now he has relied on small contributions from people like you. Sooner or later those contributors are going to be tapped out or they will reach the legal limit of what they can contribute to his campaign as individuals.

I heard Bernie brag about collecting over two million dollars lately. In future numerous Republican PAC's with no ties to any candidate will devote hundreds of millions of dollars to attack him without mercy using the ammunition he has already handed them . Establishment Democrats will find it very difficult to come to his aid because he is not one them, never was, never will be. Thousands of Republican ads will paint him as disloyal to his country and he won't have the money to respond. Bernie will be David alright, but with no sling shot.

Bernie won't have a chance - he has already provided them with far too much munition for their dirty tricky campaign and they will use that ammunition to destroy him. They are the past masters of evil.

Bernie would lose the nomination by a landslide and would take all hopes of capturing the Senate and securing the Supreme Court with him. That's the disastrous scenario which people like me are trying to avoid.

[Kentonio]

108. If he tapped out all his donors..

He'd have a war chest of 4.5 BILLION dollars. You really don't understand what you're facing. He raised $6m in just a couple of days after NH.

There isnt a single Republican in the race who Sanders OR Hillary wouldn't beat comfortably. I'm damned if I'll support the lesser option because of this wretched fear mongering.

[CajunBlazer]

111. LOL!!! Dreaming again!

An individual can give a maximum of $2,700 to a campaign. The average campaign contribution to Bernie is $27. Do you think that any of his average campaign contributors are going to contribute 1,000 times to Bernie campaign between now and election day?

Some rich liberals may already contributed a good deal already (and the average is still $27 meaning that some contributions were extremely small), but the average contributor would have to contribute almost every 4 days from now until election day to give $2,700 before Nov 8th. The vast majority of people are not going to contribute $2,700 to a single campaign and most will contribute nowhere near that.

But when I refer to "tapping out", I mean that a donor has given all he/she can afford to give, which in most case will be a lot less than $2,700. Many of Bernie's supporters are young people with little money. Some will give till it hurts - maybe a few hundred dollars - but most will need most of their available funds for tuition, books, dates, booze, new iPhones, new shoes, etc. - or in other cases mortgages, electric bills, groceries, diapers, etc.

However, Koch Brothers each have net worth of $41.1 billion. They could drop a Billion each into PACs and never miss the money. And they are not alone by no means. They are one tenth of 1% that Bernie has be blasting. With control of the Supreme Court up for grabs for the next 20 years in this election, don't think for a moment that they won't spend the money, not to promote the Republican candidate, but to destroy Bernie.

It may speak to his integrity, but when Bernie swore off PAC's he unilaterally disarmed. You never, never bring only a knife to a gun fight - that's just stupid. That's why both Obama or Clinton set up Super PACs even while they tried to eliminate the entire concept. Bernie is bringing a pen knife to gun fight and his opponents are going to be bring tanks.

On top of that Sander with his past Socialist proclivities has handed his opponents all of the stories necessary to destroy him with very little money, but they will still use a lot, they can afford it.

So tell me again how Super Candidate Bernie, that ferocious little man, is going overcome all obstacles and become President of the United States and implement every social program known to man within his first year in office. But fair warning, I won't be reading your new post this time around.

[Kentonio]

112. Math fail..

That would be 100 donations not 1000. Then again given that Bernie doesnt need $4.5 billion, it really doesnt matter anyway. He certainly has enough support though to ensure funding will not be an issue.

As for whether you'll read my post or not, it doesnt concern me in the slightest. If you want to post (inaccurate information) and run, that is your perogative.

[hifiguy]

89. There is a battalion of skeletons in the Clintons' collective closet of corruption.

None in Bernie's.

[CajunBlazer]

96. Really?

I don't remember Hillary and Bill honeymooning in the Soviet Union at the height of the cold war. I don't remember any of Hillary's friends telling the press that she read the writings of Lenin and Trotsky when she was young.

I don't remember Hillary taking trips to Cuba during the height of the cold war and praising Fidel Castro. Nor do I remember her visiting the Nicaragua, meeting with Daniel Ortega, and lavishing praise one the Sandinista government. Nor did she display a Soviet flag in her office.
Nor did she have a portrait of Eugene V. Debs, a socialist leader who supported the Soviet take over of Russia early on, hanging in her Senate office.

Now all of the true stories of Bernie past are documented in sane publications like Politico. We are not even getting into the probable lies and fabrications which others have alleged and which the Swift Boaters certainly use without any concern for the truth.

All of this these accounts be explained rationally in one way or another to knowledgeable people like you and I. For instance, Bernie says that he got married day before he and his wife traveled to the USSR as part of a Burlington, Vermont delegation to cement his city's relationships with two Soviet sister cities. He has called it "a very strange honeymoon". The Soviet flag in his mayor's office in Burlington was to commemorate the relationship with those two Russian cities. Debs pretty quickly disavowed the Soviet revolutions once their brutality was made clear. I am sure all the other stories can be explained rationally as well.

But by the time the Repug's Swift Boat team finishes airing thousands of commercials packed with half truths all across the country backed by tens of millions of dollars of Koch money, John Kerry's wounds suffered at the hands of the Swift Boaters will look like scratches. At minimum far too many people will end up believing that Bernie was a communist sympathizer at best, the truth be damned.

It won't be fair; I would find such attacks absolutely repugnant - but politics is, as always has been, a very dirty game - and the GOP dirty tricks squad has raised the stakes to another level. I don't believe Bernie will be able survive.

[Art_from_Ark]

99. And you don't remember Bernie honeymooning in Russia at the height of the Cold War, either

Bernie was visiting Burlington's sister city there in 1988, as a representative of his city, just before the collapse of the Soviet bloc, NOT "during the height of the Cold War"

[CajunBlazer]

103. Oh, there are many other incidents we could discuss....

... but why risk a hide.

[Art_from_Ark]

109. Yeah, we could discuss Ronald Reagan's visit to Russia the same year Bernie went

[CajunBlazer]

113. Yep, but was Reagan on his honeymoon? Or we could discuss Benie's vists to

Cuba and Nicaragua and his praise of Castro, Danial Ortega, and the Sandinistas, but why stop there.....

Then after we discuss the many documented events and facts the Republicans will have not trouble digging up, we could figure out what lies the Republican dirty tricks machine will just make up. And we could talk about the book about Sanders which will find it's way into publication to much media attention just in time for the general election

Had they stuck to just verifiable facts when they Swift Boated John Kerry, he would been the chief resident in the White House the next November.

[pangaia]

65. You mean after Hillary swiftboats him?

yea. nice.

[CajunBlazer]

105. I not once seen or heard Hillary bring up Benie's "sensitive issues"

and I doubt seriously that she will. Neither will the Republicans waste time and money publicizing them until and unless Bernie becomes a real threat because it it obvious that they want him to win the nomination. Why else would Carl Rove's PAC spend $1.5 million in NH right before the primary trying destroy Hillary using Bernie's talking points. (Do you believe that the GOP would ever accuse Hillary of being to close to Wall Street in the general election - LOL!!!)

However, if Bernie by some miracle wins the nomination, the Republican dirty tricks machine will be primed with tens, may hundreds of millions of PAC dollars and ready to take Bernie apart at the seams. It will be brutal!

[choie]

6. Nothing has changed...

nice attempt in using his death to scare people into voting for Clinton.

[CajunBlazer]

23. I don't have to scare them, there're not stupid

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

45. They're not stupid, but people that use the "Boo" card

are pushing the stupid needle into the red.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. Sounds to me like you want Hillary.

That doesn't work for me. I'm pro Sanders. None of the no we can't stuff for me.

[CajunBlazer]

26. Idalist usually get run over by reality

And reality is a huge steam roller.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

49. So do partisan hacks that play the "Boo" card.

[ScreamingMeemie]

9. You've been treating the primaries as "fun and games?"

Perhaps it's time to take a break.

[Ferd Berfel]

11. SO Bernie getting swiftboated by the Clinton cabal was fun&games for you?

[grntuscarora]

12. I will vote for the Dem nominee in the general,

and work my ass off in the primary for the candidate I choose.

I make no other promises.

[Motown_Johnny]

13. Citizens United / money in politics is now the top issue.

That is Bernie's issue and it hurts Hillary.


Lifting the ban on lobbyist money will also get more press now.



Some of us knew all along that this was not fun and games. I don't trust Hillary to nominate someone who will be serious about getting corporate money out of politics.

[CajunBlazer]

51. Wow, that's narrow minded

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I guess all of the issues that will come before the court, like a replay of Roe vs. Wade, will pale in comparison. More evidence of a one issue candidate.

[Motown_Johnny]

57. Even a moderate judge would uphold Roe v Wade.

The conservatives are still screaming about it, but it is established law bordering on settled law.


Citizens United is the one still open to interpretation. This needs to be the focus.

[CajunBlazer]

71. Don't you understand that the next President might replace...

...up to three more Justices on the court. Don't you understand there are other more important issues that will come before the court that Citizens United.

PAC's were alive and well in the last two Presidential elections and Obama still got elected twice.
The only reason that we lost the Senate is because the election deck was stacked against us, but it won't be this time around. The House is going to stay in Republican hands until 2022, at least, due to Gerrymandering, not Citizens United.

Citizens united is a transitivity, but it is not the most important case to come before the Court just because Bernie said it was. Remember when we got George W. Bush complements of the Court. Do you understand the damage that man did to this country. And the biggest reason why the Republicans want control of the court is to overthrow Roe vs. Wade. You want Citizens United overturned, you better nominate the right Democrat.

[Motown_Johnny]

82. Of course I understand that, which is why I can't support Hillary.

She isn't liberal enough to trust with SCOTUS appointments. I also don't trust her to be popular enough to hold the White House in 2020. Even if she does win this year the (R)s could have a huge 2020 running against her and that is the census year that we need (D)s in office in swing states.


Hillary's numbers always go down, just ask Lawrence O'Donnell. Her favorable numbers already suck. If you honestly do care about gerrymandered districts then you should be supporting Bernie.







Edit to add: The Citizens United decision was released in 2010, so it was not alive and well during the last two presidential elections. Please try to get some basic facts straight.

[pangaia]

68. THAT issue affects everything else.

[Avalux]

14. So because Scalia is dead, we're back to "no we can't"?

Scalia's death is another reason reason why it's even more critical to nominate Sanders. He's the only Dem who can win the presidency and appoint a progressive SC justice, provided Obama can't get one through.

[hifiguy]

88. ^^^THIS^^^

[karynnj]

15. it was always this and the candidate who does better in the GE is Bernie

Not to mention, Obama likely will nominate someone as noncontrversial and as obviously qualified as possible and it is possible that he/she will be confirmed. I don't think a position on the court has stayed unfilled for more than a year.

[CajunBlazer]

39. He has two choices:

If he wants a chance that his nominee will be confirmed he can nominate someone the Republicans think they can live with for the next 20 years. If that person is confirmed, Supreme Court decision become a crap shoot.

Or he can nominate a true progressive that they will not confirm. If he nominates yet another, they will not confirm.

[karynnj]

61. I think at any point, a true progressive would not have been likely

I think Obama will pick someone who is seen as an outstanding jurist, who has a strong record. To put it in Republican terms, a Roberts, not an Alito.

I think the Supreme Court having only 8 judges for over a year will be seen as a real problem. (That estimate comes from the fact that a new President will require significant time before making a nomination. If it is a Republican, consider they could not even seriously vet anyone before taking office.)

I think Obama will make a list and meet with Grassley, chair of the Judicial committee and McConnell.

[morningfog]

16. This has always been the case, and for every election

for past several.

[JackBeck]

17. It hasn't even been an hour and you're already politicizing this.

You're showing not only that you're crass, but extremely immature.

[Puglover]

37. Heya Mister!

Classy huh?

[JackBeck]

40. I know you're biting your tongue as hard as I am at the moment.

If there were any folks who should be screaming "Bye, Scalia!" at the moment it would be you and I.



But to try and bring the primaries into this as quickly as they did is reprehensible.

[Puglover]

48. Yeah but I am looking out

my window at the sun setting behind a 17k foot extinct volcano and watching the hummingbirds grab their last slurp of the day.

It's 70 and lovely so frankly all the bullshit seems a long way away.

But thank god for the "adults" to tell us how serious things are.

[JackBeck]

53. Ha, I've seen the picture and you more than deserve your slice of paradise. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

55. I hate you. Do you also have unicorns in this paradise?

Going minus here tonight.

[Puglover]

60. The internet is kinda slow.

Does that make you feel a bit better?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

63. Ha! I knew your paradise was a lie!

[MH1]

22. I guess we won't be hearing the "dime's worth of difference" nonsense.

Oh wait, of course we will.

But anyone who thinks their less preferred Dem candidate would be not worth voting for, or whom voting for would somehow sully said voter's purist soul, is a f*cking moron.

Not that Scalia's death actually makes any substantive difference. It was a fact before. Maybe it is just a more visible fact to some now.

[TransitJohn]

29. Lol.

I swear, Hillary supporters will turn anything into a chance to argue for conservatism/regressivism.

[Cassiopeia]

31. We can not risk Clinton in the GE.

The Republicans would be overwhelming motivated against our needs.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

41. Now that McConnell said he'll block Obama, it's going to be 4-4 until the Senate changes

The tie breaker is the lower court IIRC

[hifiguy]

75. She's electoral poison in the general.

HRH at the top of the ticket is worth 2-3 million votes nationally. REPUBLICANS motivated to come out and vote against her. Why don't people understand this??

[Cassiopeia]

86. Even if she won

which is a wild long shot, Jan 21st would be the opening of impeachment hearings.

[hifiguy]

87. As sure as eggs is eggs.

Four years of nothing but impeachment and investigations. Dead on Day One.

[Cassiopeia]

91. Some people are just happy with endless and pointless war that

leads to nowhere.

Her supporters have been fighting this one for quite some time. I imagine if Hillary pulled off 8 years in the WH, yet accomplished nothing because she was always hamstrung by investigations, they would call it a victory.

Stalemates are pointless.

[cali]

32. It's never been fun and games

And screw your it has to be Hillary meme.

[Broward]

34. It was never fun and games.

Just one more reason to ensure the nomination of Bernie Sanders.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

35. Thanks for the 10 lbs of concern

in the 5 lb bag.

Hillary will be the worst nominee if she becomes the Dem pick.

besides the inevitable investigations into everything Clinton, whe will she have time to nominate?

The GOP will be the GOP as they are now and after the election.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

38. It won't be Obama's appointment. McConnell just blocked it

[PowerToThePeople]

43. I agree. Vote Bernie for the win!

Bernie 2016!

[joshcryer]

46. would have recced if you weren't shitting on our candidates

[Warren DeMontague]

50. Yep. Maybe we better nominate the person who is inspiring young people, not the one

Who is phoning it in with a craptastic, superficial politics-as-usual campaign.

[pangaia]

52. "We can no longer count on improbable dreams coming true.."!!!

YES YES YES !! I agree 1000%


BERNIE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!

[LostOne4Ever]

54. +infinity! nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. Dare the Rethugs to hold up Obama's nominee. Watch the turnout increase TENFOLD!!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

58. It is pretty clear to me that we don't need a corporate ass kissing

politician in the WH, so Sanders will be the better choice.

[artislife]

59. Why is the bench so loaded now? Ask Hillary's friend David

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,167355,00.html

Brock confesses in a Talk magazine excerpt of his new book, Blinded by the Right, that he had printed "virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation" he could to make Hill seem "a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty." If that was all Brock did, we might have nothing more than another sin committed on behalf of the vast right-wing conspiracy. But Brock, who has forged a second career as a recovering conservative, makes one admission that implicates Thomas. Brock says he used information that came indirectly from Thomas to force a retraction from a woman named Kaye Savage, who had come forward in support of Hill. Brock threatened to publicize vicious charges made by her ex-husband in a sealed child-custody dispute.

She is really good at taking advice from Conservative douchebags.

Don't tell me he has changed. I have been paying attention to his smears this campaign.

[PoliticAverse]

62. Looks like DU's "never ever happening" crowd is now telling Obama what he can't ever accomplish too.

[oasis]

69. GOP will not let it happen. They control the senate. nt

[CajunBlazer]

74. Not me, I was just passing on the Republican message to the dreamers....

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... who obviously haven't been paying attention.

Just like I have been trying to pass on the reality that the "revolution" isn't going to happen to those allergic to reality.

[Armstead]

64. It has never been fun and games

[Joe the Revelator]

70. First of all: Stop. The talking points are so thick people can barely breath in here.

Second of all, if you want to win, Hillary is proving as we speak that she's not the one to do it. She can't even beat a socialist.

[nc4bo]

72. You lost your entire argument with that last stupid ass paragraph. NT

[Odin2005]

73. NO WE CAN'T! NO WE CAN'T! NO WE CAN'T!

[CajunBlazer]

106. Still hiding from reality?

You know it's going to find you sooner or later.

[Live and Learn]

77. You are right. Hillary must drop out now for the good of the party.

[NowSam]

78. So don't take a chance on Clinton

Go with Bernie. You can trust him.

[hifiguy]

90. Yup. And I trust HRH about as far as I can

throw the Sphinx.

[NowSam]

92. Thank you for stepping up and saying what I left out.

Seems like the trust issue - which is very very real if you believe the pollsters - and that should, I believe eliminate any chance of HRC ever sitting on the bench.

[whatchamacallit]

79. How can we do any worse than Scalia?

Just sayin...

[Skwmom]

80. Which is why with all the Clinton baggage, Hillary should withdrawal from the race. n/t

[bettyellen]

81. It never was fun and games for me.

[redwitch]

84. I never thought it was fun and games.

Why did you?

[JackRiddler]

95. Excellent argument for Sanders over Clinton...

since she is a highly unpopular and untrusted politician who might actually lose the election even to a Trump.

Thanks!

[DCBob]

110. You are correct... retaining the White House is absolutely critical.

We cannot risk putting up a weak, untested, inexperienced candidate like Bernie Sanders. We need a strong, battle-tested candidate who can win like Hillary Clinton or we risk losing it all.