2016 Postmortem
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"The Obama economic agenda sucks because employment has been over 8% for his entire term." Another dishonest talking point - one that avoids considering the trends in employment and consumer confidence - in their desperate attempt to whitewash the results of their Party's control of all 3 branches of our government from 2000-2006. By 2008, the results of their governorship and legislated economic policies almost killed this country. Their ideological "clean paper" nation-building experiment in Iraq - the CPA - was a bright and shining disaster - totally for the people of Iraq and economically for the people here ($1TT and counting). Had Gore been President, I suspect that Trillion plus money would have been spent creating a new energy economy, based on decentralizing energy generation, using alternative, renewable energy strategies...one that would require lots of jobs to manufacture, install, service these systems. They killed the idea in the 80's when they 'changed course' on Carter's energy policies in the late 70's. Dejavue all over again.
Wonder when the morons in the USA, who vote against their best interests, will figure this out?
On the Road
(20,783 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)"the polls are skewed," "the liberal media is biased against conservatives," etc. So many excuses for so many failures.............
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)He will have "stolen" the election.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)but most people- absent any real proof- will just chalk it up to "sour grapes".
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)will, but I seriously worry about these people who talk of secession and "Second Amendment solutions".
I think there is a very real danger of us heading into a second civil war.
Mr.Bill
(24,263 posts)catbyte
(34,359 posts)Most likely by siccing the Chicago chapter of the New Black Panthers on U.S. Department of Labor statisticians or some such rot.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Naturalizing of many new citizens just in time for them to vote (wonder why new citizens are perceived to vote for Democrats - but then in this case, they are just voting for their fellow non-natural born citizen! )
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)I mean, the job numbers come out on a regular schedule. A reasonably competent campaign would know that this week's number could dump on any reference to the unemployment rate made during the debate. Also reminds people how dishonest it is to say "the unemployment rate stayed above 8% for all of Obama's Presidency" without recognizing that it has been fairly steadily dropping over the last year.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)He no longer has to live under the cloud of 8%.
brush
(53,759 posts)What's that phrase: "Elections have consequences"? God! Just think of where the country would be if Scalia and Thomas, et al, hadn't selected W Bush in 2000, the least smart of the Bush boys (well, maybe there's a tie between W and Neil, the Savings and Loan screw up). I suspect a good part of all those billions spent on two wars, plus the trillions spent on bank bailouts, would have gone into green energy development in a Gore administration. By now, 12 years later, we could have been totally energy independent, or at least on the verge of it, with a roaring economy from all the jobs created by all the new wind, solar, algae, geothermal and maybe even tidal energy industries. And I'm pretty sure he would have gotten around to tackling our antiquated infrastructure as well. More jobs there. Oh well, at least a person can dream. It's been a long, hard slog against repub obstructionism but President Obama is gradually digging us out of the 8-year hole W, Cheney, Rice, Rove, and Rumsfeld dug the country into (am I leaving out any of the culprits?). This upcoming election also will have consequences, and I'm sure those of us on this site know that they won't be good if Romney/Ryan, the lyin' duo get in. Let's all keep working for the President until Nov. 6.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Yeah, we're on common ground here, my friend. Elections do have consequences...socially shared energy self-sufficiency visions scare the shit out of those with a huge economic stake in future US energy policy (Koch Brothers, Exxon, Massey, etc). Guess who they are backing?