Americans Enjoy Aggressively told lies

[courseofhistory]

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President Obama, who also could have challenged Romney on these untruths, stuck to his narrative and didn’t decisively call Romney out on it. Obama didn’t win points for that. In fact, Americans, it seems from the sum of the post-debate polls, prefer aggressively told lies to explanations. At least, perhaps, until after a few days when they realize it was just a reality show.

Romney denied he has proposed a $5 trillion tax cut, but since he has given no specifics on the elimination of “offsets” like tax deductions and credits, the $5 trillion is the only hard number available. Romney repeated the untruth that President Obama is “cutting $716 billion” from Medicare, but these are actually savings from reductions in fraud and waste. Gas prices have not “doubled,” as Mr. Romney claimed.

Perhaps the worst lie of all was Romney’s claim that people with pre-existing conditions would be covered under his plan, a claim that a Romney adviser immediately walked back after the debate

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Precisely!


[link:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/lie-to-me-please-truth-was-the-real-loser-of-first-presidential-debate/2012/10/04/40f73e8a-0e44-11e2-bd1a-b868e65d57eb_blog.html|

And...

...but his policies weren’t the kind of crazy he’s been bragging up on the trail. He abandoned the Tea Party and the GOP last night, and basically fashioned himself into a rough outline of Obama, policy wise. The problem is, he was lying. That was a fictional Romney, not the Romney we have on tape from the entire past year, or for that matter all the way back to 1994.

So if Mitt Romney won this debate, he did it by lying about who he is and how he plans to govern. He stood on that stage and huffed and puffed how dare Obama claim he was going to defund education, when we know for a fact that not only did he float that in Massachusetts, but press overheard him at a closed door fundraiser telling his donors that he couldn’t tell us he was going to kill the Department of Education, so he would starve it in other ways. That guy, the guy who sneeringly explained how he couldn’t tell you the truth, he was poutraged last night when Obama called him on his sudden shape shifting.

http://www.politicususa.com/12-lies-mitt-romneys-debate-performance-mostly-fiction.htmlp://

Read the 12 lies at the link above.

ROMNEY LIE #1: ROMNEY SAYS HIS FIVE POINT PLAN WILL LEAD US TO PROSPERITY, BUT INDEPENDENT ANALYSTS SAY IT WOULD ACTUALLY HURT THE ECONOMY

Romney: “My Plan Has Five Basic Parts. … I’ll Restore The Vitality That Gets America Working Again.” [Romney, Denver Presidential Debate, 10/3/12]

Senior Adviser At Moody’s Analytics Mark Hopkins: Romney’s Policies “Would Do More Harm In The Short Term” And “If We Implemented All Of His Policies, It Would Push Us Deeper Into Recession And Make The Recovery Slower.” [Greg Sargent, Washington Post, 6/7/12]

ROMNEY LIE #2: ROMNEY SAID HIS TAX PLAN WOULDN’T HURT THE MIDDLE CLASS, BUT IT WILL RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS WHILE CUTTING THEM FOR MULTIMILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES

Romney: “I Will Not, Under Any Circumstances, Raise Taxes On Middle-Income Families.” [Denver Presidential Debate, 10/3/12]

[MrSlayer]

1. They like strong leaders.

Whether Romney was lying or not is irrelevant. He looked strong and decisive, he owned the room and his opponent. That's what Americans like.

We're lying to ourselves if we don't think some real damage was done last night. Any person that hadn't been following up until then, and there are many of them, are Romney people right now. They're clueless about the facts of the matter and they aren't tuning into any news show to get them.

It wasn't a fatal performance by the President but it did wound him. We'll see that show up in the polls over the next few days.

[COLGATE4]

6. You're absolutely right. And the worst part

is that Obama had a great opportunity to put William away. He blew it.

[dimbear]

2. Mostly true, but a long slow current of refutations can be painful.

Especially if you are eventually forced to admit you lied.

[freshwest]

3. Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and every other authoritarian bastard were loved by enough...

Frightened and anxious people who wanted an omipotent, even if evil, strong man' to lead them and tell them what to do. It is no wonder fundies make up a good deal of Romney's support.

Obama has done the reverse, telling people that Change comes from them, not him. This is a more realistic solution than depending on one man. The ones who are looking for a Savior won't find one, not even in a false Messiah like Romney.

Obama trusts and respects the American people enough to shape their own destiny and not be told what to do by dictatorial means.

A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves. ~ Lao Tzu

Romney, however, has all the attributes of a tyrant.

[NCLefty]

4. Yep. We judge the winner by he who hits the most/hardest only.

'MERCA!

[treestar]

5. No real proof of that

but if that's what we prefer, we deserve what we get.

[Democat]

7. No, we just need Democratic leaders to have a strong public appearance

If the American people want to see someone act strong, then there are plenty of Democrats who fit that bill.

Obama could have looked stronger while presenting the same ideas.