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Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:23 PM Feb 2016

About the elephant in the room (no, not that elephant) -

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This is cross-posted from the Bernie Sanders group due to requests for me to share it more widely


White Bernsters, Occupy and Race

First, let me be clear about Bernie’s so called POC problem. I don’t think he has a problem, if anything, it’s that many don’t know who he is or what he’s about, POC or otherwise. Most of the country is disengaged from politics in general. There are many black Bernie supporters, I am one of them, but I wonder if it’s more perception than fact that POC don’t like him. Not to mention that POC are not a monolithic bloc, we vary as much as any other group of people. So much is unclear about this.

What I do know is that due to the media’s history of giving Bernie so little coverage, and when they do it is unfair and unbalanced, it is incumbent on us to get the word out. This is frustrating because many of Bernie’s supporters do, yes, have a POC problem – because America has a POC problem. Failure to communicate and connect with POC is not unique to Bernie supporters, in fact, look at ’08 to see who else had the same dilemma. Furthermore, Bernie hasn’t made a full appeal to POC voters due to the electoral calendar, the primary elections in Nevada and South Carolina are coming along fast though. We will see what his campaign does, I am confident he will do well. But that is the campaign, the problem is with Bernie supporters and their racial disconnection.

By all reason and logic, and at first glance, the POC fight against the system, for fairness, equality and representation has become the aim of the white working class as well. The struggle is multi-faceted and economic interests overlap, there is so much potential for an alliance but it hasn’t happened, it needs to happen now.

When Occupy came on the scene, it was clear to some of us that many of the occupiers wanted to restore the lost privilege they had had come to expect. It looked to me like white occupiers wanted the establishment to work for them again instead of working for everyone. The problem is, that privilege was gained on the backs of black Americans (our parents, grandparents and ancestors). While this is not the direct fault or responsibility of today’s young white folks, when they outright deny their privilege, they only confirm the initial impression that they are not standing shoulder to shoulder for equality or for democracy. Suddenly blacks and whites are supposed to be on the same side because more white people are struggling?

Had more white Occupiers acknowledged why they had that advantage, we may have a comfortable alliance now. For the most part, I haven’t seen anything resembling that and now that Bernie is running for President, the same problems we had then are now going to be issues for Bernie. The fact is he needs more African American votes and since the media is trying to ignore him, Bernie is relying on us supporters to get the word out.

Bernie supporters are nervous because they need POC support for their candidate, which may be a new experience for some, while black people in particular are instinctively guarded in unique and specific ways about politicians already. So when white Bernie supporters, lacking context and understanding of POC perspective, try to sell a politician and do so with utter tone deafness and ignorance. What do you think is going to happen?

Incidentally, the exact same scenario played out when Occupy was on the front page. Politics is complicated, racial politics is a quagmire. It is messy and cannot be approached without nuanced understanding.

When Occupy first bubbled up, I was excited and ready to form alliances, I hoped we were finally going to get somewhere and make some political change. I remember thinking that Americans of all stripes might finally find common ground while embracing differences out of mutual interest and willingness to do the necessary work. I was wrong, the white Occupiers were mostly disconnected from POC perspective.

Here are some examples of the disconnection:
• Colorblindness as an ideal
• Defiance of authority/police without understanding the implications. We could very well be killed, not just unfairly arrested
• Not realizing that the lost privilege of the middle class was gained on the backs of our grandparents and parents
• Complaints about abuse of power and a rigged system and not understanding that communities of color have needed white courage for decades. (I asked myself repeatedly, “Are they now here for themselves or for the principle? For justice for all, or to try to get back to the good old days? To restore the unfair advantage they feel slipping away or to create a better future?”)

These disconnections appear to be present still. To make matters worse, telling black people what their political interests should be is just bad form. Very bad.

As for the African Americans that have decided to go with Bernie’s opposition, this is my take:
(note - It is strictly an observation on my part, I don’t intend to speak for them here. I cannot but for the sake of building bridges…)

Many black people have made some modest gains for equality and representation by navigating a rigged system, a rigged system that was literally designed to ensure their failure. The odds are virtually insurmountable yet some have succeeded beyond wildest expectations, such as Obama. That so many Bernie supporters fail to understand what it takes for a black person to navigate successfully in a world made for whites does not inspire some black people to stand with us.

When unconscious white Bernie supporters come barreling in threatening to disruptively upend the status quo, who wouldn’t want to slam the brakes? Keep in mind that this status quo, toxic as it is, it is still one in which many African Americans have managed to make small gains, incrementally. Many blacks have completed incredible feats of accomplishment to get ahead in a corrupt system hostile to black people, by finesse, smart strategy and diligent care and after generations of blood, sweat and tears by our grandparents and parents, the instinct is to stay the course. But then Bernie comes in threatening the current order, it is unnerving to the risk averse – and justifiably so. So much is at stake.

Then … when Bernie supporters insult the President on a personal level!? A man that literally saved this country from dire straits as it was circling down the drain, dealing with unprecedented obstruction and hostility, judging his work as if he was a white man in the white house. This is a grave mistake if you want their votes, it only demonstrates lack of understanding what black life in America is about. Many African Americans are fiercely protective of the President for obvious reasons.

The President has made some mistakes for sure, I acknowledge that and he did not lead from as far to the left as many would have liked, but when people judge his accomplishments by the same standards you use for a white president – it’s flatly wrong. Unfairly judging Obama does not engender confidence necessary for an alliance. The strategies he had to further develop in order to get anything done at all is unprecedented. He is a brilliant leader in spite of the areas where he could have done better and has been an amazing success in spite of the hostility. He plays the game exceptionally well – and he is not to be blamed for the game itself. He didn’t invent it and he couldn’t have changed it to the degree we wanted anyway. He has to play the cards he is dealt, and he plays them brilliantly. He was the right person for president at the time, now things are different. I believe, no, I know Bernie can get it done if we have his back. We cannot effectively have his back if we are divided and nothing divides Americans more effectively than race.

When white Bernie supporters won’t do the basic work to cross the racial divide, such as seeing that race and class are not interchangeable, or admitting to and using white privilege for the better, or fighting for equality instead of an unfair advantage or ignorantly insist that colorblindness is the answer - we all lose.

With all of this considered, why would (some) African Americans feel the Bern?

The irony is Bernie appears to get it for the most part but many of his supporters don’t. Bernie understands how race figures into the larger picture. Too many white Bernie supporters could hurt Bernie’s chances of gaining more POC votes if they don’t figure this out.

Bernie is still largely unknown and he has the potential to be our greatest ally to date, but since the media does not report on him, or when they do, they do so dishonestly, it’s up to us to tell the world about him. Let’s get race right this time.

The question remains, are white Bernie supporters fighting to restore privilege or are they fighting to restore democracy for all? Does their vision of change include POC, with the social and political complications that come with us? I ask you, white Bernsters, when you make gains, are you taking your prize and going home, or are you staying the course for everyone, POC included?

Keep in mind that a win for white people does not necessarily translate into a win for everyone else.

Because policy proposals and positions that help blacks tend to lose white voters and you can bet your butter the opposition will use race as a cudgel. White Bernie supporters need to break this pattern. Bernie, and America as a whole, needs us to break the pattern. We must do this work.


See my other posts for more about this subject:

In a fit of frustration, I posted a mini rant this morning. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027589250

Also, something to think about, where the above mentioned overlap occurs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280105489

Finally, this long read is an important one. For Bernie 2016, take the time to read it.
http://www.thenation.com/article/how-populists-like-bernie-sanders-should-talk-about-racism/
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About the elephant in the room (no, not that elephant) - (Original Post) Rebkeh Feb 2016 OP
I can't speak for anyone but myself here, it is about corruption and all it entangles, which Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #1
Proud to R and K this post. Sinistrous Feb 2016 #2
Sanders and his supporters need to study this brilliant post! Arazi Feb 2016 #3
You're welcome and thank you nt Rebkeh Feb 2016 #7
I've said before Sanders has a real problem with POC Arazi Feb 2016 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #4
Great post. Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #5
Thank you for writing this. artislife Feb 2016 #6
I love that 'thumbs up' gif lol Rebkeh Feb 2016 #8

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. I can't speak for anyone but myself here, it is about corruption and all it entangles, which
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

is an extensive reach into society. It is NOT about money, it is about recognizing
what a functioning democracy looks like and fighting for it, period.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
9. I've said before Sanders has a real problem with POC
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

posts like yours, JRLeft, Bravenak, Liberal_Stewart, 1StrongBlackMan etc (I'm sure I'm missing a slew of folks) are really great.

Very good information and guidance that Sanders' supporters need to internalize now (and I'm a Sanders supporter)

Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
5. Great post.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:13 PM
Feb 2016

I have been disappointed at times with President Obama. I do get that the few criticisms I've registered here of his administration can be taken as offensive. Not my intention. There simply won't be many more times to overturn the neocon grip on the US government. He had a chance early in his administration, and trusted the wrong Democrats.

I don't vote nor do I fight for a white-success-only pattern. I just don't think there have been many other options. Lets' put a better candidate on the national stage, and I for one will vote for that person.

There seems to be an idea that Sen. Sanders has to be MORE than other candidates. Make a simple comparison of what he has pledged to fight for vs. all what other candidates will fight for. Why aren't the others doing more?

His agenda to get rid of for-profit prisons, decriminalize MJ, institute universal healthcare & $15 minimum wage & tuition-free college should produce immediate direct benefits for the AA community. Are those not the best proposed steps that can be taken among the 2016 candidates?

I wish that there was a candidate that translated into success as you see it, I really do. The two-party system forces everyone to vote for a candidate with ample fleas.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
6. Thank you for writing this.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

In the last 48 hours I have tried to convey some of these points. My ethnic make up is half white and half Latina/ Native American. One side of my family fought for this country while being denied citizenship until after he had already served a few years. The other side dug ditches for roads and got paid very little. The white side of my family came over during the potato blight. A generation in they gained privilege

Getting fully integrated and privilege is not something that happens easily on the whole for people who have darker skin.

I wish everyone could accept this fact. When things get tight, this country looks to people of color whether Black, Latino or Middle Eastern to blame. We become what is wrong.
I will never say my experience is as hard as being Black in this country but I hear a lot of racism that people don't think is racist.

Again, thank you for really taking the time to post this.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
8. I love that 'thumbs up' gif lol
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:02 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks and you're welcome. I, too, am tired of being a "problem" and a scapegoat.

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