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gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:29 PM Feb 2016

When going to vote please bring your cellphone camera, record and document everything

Whether you are working at the polls or going to vote, whatever state you are in, take nothing for granted. Record and document everything. If there are shenanigans (as there were in Iowa last week) at least you have something on record.

Someone else suggested taking pictures of the final tallies at every precinct if possible and get it time-marked. If the so-called results don't match the probable outcome considering the composition of the precinct or the results of any exit polling, there's then something to serve as a guide as to which precincts are the most likely to have been red shifted the most.

Besides that we have to come out in overwhelming numbers wherever possible to make it as hard as possible for them to cheat and get away with it. Better to be overly cautious and vigilant than not. This country has a long history of election fraud, from suppression of the black vote during the Jim Crow era to modern day gerrymandering and vote machine manipulation in 2000 and 2004 that cost Gore and Kerry the elections. Just look at what happened in Iowa last week where the DNC refuses public access to the raw vote count. There is no legitimate reason to refuse to release it. These are public elections paid with our tax dollars and in a democracy no one has the right to withhold this or any other information from the public.

The empire won't give up its power easily and you have to assume they will do anything to hold on to it including election fraud.

Any other suggestions are welcome.

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When going to vote please bring your cellphone camera, record and document everything (Original Post) gyroscope Feb 2016 OP
Don't forget your tinfoil hat 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #1
LOL firebrand80 Feb 2016 #2
I wear mine whenever I think of Florida 2000 NowSam Feb 2016 #5
No tinfoil needed gyroscope Feb 2016 #6
Make sure it's the extra heavy gauge stuff Fumesucker Feb 2016 #9
Were any of those people Democrats? Hmmm? No? No Democrats doing dirty tricks in FLA 2000? Hekate Feb 2016 #26
Right coyote Feb 2016 #15
I was thinking the same thing. Beacool Feb 2016 #21
Thanks, was just thinking the same thing about the OP Sheepshank Feb 2016 #30
Oh yeah......... Beacool Feb 2016 #33
Careful. That's not legal everywhere. Wilms Feb 2016 #3
After Sanders had to fire staffers for stealing data, this sounds like a good idea. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #4
+1 Hekate Feb 2016 #25
We vote by mail in my state. So it would consist of "selfies". Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #7
Taking pictures of your vote and the voting habits of others is probably not adsvisable Sheepshank Feb 2016 #31
Not to mention discourteous. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #32
Check your area's election laws before you do. Nailzberg Feb 2016 #8
I expect Bernie to win tonight 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #10
I think you are mocking a fellow Bernie supporter. Well done! bettyellen Feb 2016 #14
OOps, this is the GD:P 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #18
Oh, I read your post wrong. Truly sorry! I am not aligned with anyone yet bettyellen Feb 2016 #20
Maybe Hillary's supporters are the ones who should be documenting their votes. Beacool Feb 2016 #22
There are strict limits on what and where you can photograph in most polling places. bettyellen Feb 2016 #11
Cops don't want you filming them either gyroscope Feb 2016 #12
Yeah, we had a mayoral candidate get in a scuffle inside a polling place..... bettyellen Feb 2016 #13
In Texas, you can film if you are a 100 feet from the door of the polling location but not inside Gothmog Feb 2016 #28
Yes, that was the same here. 100 feet for electioneering as well. bettyellen Feb 2016 #29
My husband and I vote by mail DesertRat Feb 2016 #16
ALCOA! FSogol Feb 2016 #17
What are you going to do.. HillDawg Feb 2016 #19
The little old lady who took my ballot didn't look too subversive. Vinca Feb 2016 #23
Cool story Hekate Feb 2016 #24
Warning-this is illegal in many states Gothmog Feb 2016 #27
This is already the most entertaining thread of the day Godhumor Feb 2016 #34

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
5. I wear mine whenever I think of Florida 2000
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

Because I'd have to be a foil hat wearing loon to believe that elections could be rigged. Right?

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
6. No tinfoil needed
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

the long history of election fraud in this country speaks for itself, and continues to this day.


Des Moines Register Says 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucuses Were a ‘Debacle,’ Calls for Audit

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/iowa-newspaper-wants-democratic-caucuses-audited.html

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
15. Right
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:00 PM
Feb 2016

Because election fraud couldnt happen here. USA #1, leader of the free world and all that bullshit.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
21. I was thinking the same thing.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

This place is becoming more and more like a RW site. They are the ones who always think that Democrats steal elections.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
30. Thanks, was just thinking the same thing about the OP
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

we have officially entered the RW twilight zone

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
31. Taking pictures of your vote and the voting habits of others is probably not adsvisable
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

perhaps a list of actual rules would keep the photographer out of trouble.

Nailzberg

(4,610 posts)
8. Check your area's election laws before you do.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:59 PM
Feb 2016

In some states, photography is specifically prohibited in a polling place. In other areas, it may be allowed but with limitations to regarding voter intimidation or privacy concerns. Many states prohibit sharing photography of a marked ballot, for example.

I don't necessarily agree with these laws all the time, but know before you go.


72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
10. I expect Bernie to win tonight
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:10 PM
Feb 2016

But it's impressive how on the ball you folks are. You've got your excuses all ready to go, just in case.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. I think you are mocking a fellow Bernie supporter. Well done!
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

Because we all need more snark and more CTs. LOL.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
18. OOps, this is the GD:P
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

so you assumed I was a Bernie supporter.

I take no offense, I know some wonderful people who are.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. Oh, I read your post wrong. Truly sorry! I am not aligned with anyone yet
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:22 PM
Feb 2016

but refuse to hate on any candidate, so am painted as as Clinton supporter all the time.
My apologies, I know how it is, LOL.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. There are strict limits on what and where you can photograph in most polling places.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:38 PM
Feb 2016

I thought that was well known! Guess not.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
12. Cops don't want you filming them either
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

Not surprising when those who may be doing something wrong don't want it caught on tape.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. Yeah, we had a mayoral candidate get in a scuffle inside a polling place.....
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016

and it was photographed, but they were not admissible in court because of election law.

Gothmog

(145,152 posts)
28. In Texas, you can film if you are a 100 feet from the door of the polling location but not inside
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:46 PM
Feb 2016

You got to be careful here.

There is litigation on ballot selfies but such pictures are illegal in many states. In the old days people used to sell their vote and take a picture of their ballot to prove that they voted the right way.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. Yes, that was the same here. 100 feet for electioneering as well.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

We actually have had horrible election fraud here, but for local races. Thousands of voter registrations thrown in the trash, had to ferry people over to the next town to get court orders allowing them to vote.
Also people paid 50-60 to vote three times in a row. Given paper with three names and addresses to claim, and walked as a large group from polling place to polling place. This was filmed by the FBI years ago, but nothing ever came of it. The (future) mayor of my town said it would be a shame if my building burned down, because I refused to work for him. He bullied cops and teachers into doing GOTV calls for him- from their office phones during work hours. Our first honest mayor in 30 years got in, because the elected one went to jail. SO did the one who threatened me, but he is out now- and very wealthy.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
23. The little old lady who took my ballot didn't look too subversive.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

Although it did cross my mind to photograph the ballot because there was a candidate named Vermin Supreme.

Hekate

(90,660 posts)
24. Cool story
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:35 PM
Feb 2016


On the other hand, consider doing just that for the General Election, when our true opponents, the GOP, are in the mix.

Gothmog

(145,152 posts)
27. Warning-this is illegal in many states
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

Check the law before doing this. In Texas, this is illegal and there are signs on the way to the polling place telling you to turn off your phone.

It is illegal to take a selfie of your completed ballot on the screen in Texas. This law goes back to the days when people sold votes and people would require some sort of proof that you cast the ballot the same way. There are restrictions on filming inside a polling place due to these concerns in most states.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
34. This is already the most entertaining thread of the day
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:41 PM
Feb 2016

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For so many reasons.

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