2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen going to vote please bring your cellphone camera, record and document everything
Whether you are working at the polls or going to vote, whatever state you are in, take nothing for granted. Record and document everything. If there are shenanigans (as there were in Iowa last week) at least you have something on record.
Someone else suggested taking pictures of the final tallies at every precinct if possible and get it time-marked. If the so-called results don't match the probable outcome considering the composition of the precinct or the results of any exit polling, there's then something to serve as a guide as to which precincts are the most likely to have been red shifted the most.
Besides that we have to come out in overwhelming numbers wherever possible to make it as hard as possible for them to cheat and get away with it. Better to be overly cautious and vigilant than not. This country has a long history of election fraud, from suppression of the black vote during the Jim Crow era to modern day gerrymandering and vote machine manipulation in 2000 and 2004 that cost Gore and Kerry the elections. Just look at what happened in Iowa last week where the DNC refuses public access to the raw vote count. There is no legitimate reason to refuse to release it. These are public elections paid with our tax dollars and in a democracy no one has the right to withhold this or any other information from the public.
The empire won't give up its power easily and you have to assume they will do anything to hold on to it including election fraud.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)well done
NowSam
(1,252 posts)Because I'd have to be a foil hat wearing loon to believe that elections could be rigged. Right?
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)the long history of election fraud in this country speaks for itself, and continues to this day.
Des Moines Register Says 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucuses Were a Debacle, Calls for Audit
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/iowa-newspaper-wants-democratic-caucuses-audited.html
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Hekate
(90,660 posts)Because election fraud couldnt happen here. USA #1, leader of the free world and all that bullshit.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)This place is becoming more and more like a RW site. They are the ones who always think that Democrats steal elections.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)we have officially entered the RW twilight zone
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)Google the subject.
Here's one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/photo-polling-place_n_6095746.html
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)perhaps a list of actual rules would keep the photographer out of trouble.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Nailzberg
(4,610 posts)In some states, photography is specifically prohibited in a polling place. In other areas, it may be allowed but with limitations to regarding voter intimidation or privacy concerns. Many states prohibit sharing photography of a marked ballot, for example.
I don't necessarily agree with these laws all the time, but know before you go.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)But it's impressive how on the ball you folks are. You've got your excuses all ready to go, just in case.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Because we all need more snark and more CTs. LOL.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)so you assumed I was a Bernie supporter.
I take no offense, I know some wonderful people who are.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)but refuse to hate on any candidate, so am painted as as Clinton supporter all the time.
My apologies, I know how it is, LOL.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I thought that was well known! Guess not.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)Not surprising when those who may be doing something wrong don't want it caught on tape.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)and it was photographed, but they were not admissible in court because of election law.
Gothmog
(145,152 posts)You got to be careful here.
There is litigation on ballot selfies but such pictures are illegal in many states. In the old days people used to sell their vote and take a picture of their ballot to prove that they voted the right way.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)We actually have had horrible election fraud here, but for local races. Thousands of voter registrations thrown in the trash, had to ferry people over to the next town to get court orders allowing them to vote.
Also people paid 50-60 to vote three times in a row. Given paper with three names and addresses to claim, and walked as a large group from polling place to polling place. This was filmed by the FBI years ago, but nothing ever came of it. The (future) mayor of my town said it would be a shame if my building burned down, because I refused to work for him. He bullied cops and teachers into doing GOTV calls for him- from their office phones during work hours. Our first honest mayor in 30 years got in, because the elected one went to jail. SO did the one who threatened me, but he is out now- and very wealthy.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)as do most of the people we know.
FSogol
(45,481 posts)HillDawg
(198 posts)Stand there and video tape all day? Come on now.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)Although it did cross my mind to photograph the ballot because there was a candidate named Vermin Supreme.
Hekate
(90,660 posts)On the other hand, consider doing just that for the General Election, when our true opponents, the GOP, are in the mix.
Gothmog
(145,152 posts)Check the law before doing this. In Texas, this is illegal and there are signs on the way to the polling place telling you to turn off your phone.
It is illegal to take a selfie of your completed ballot on the screen in Texas. This law goes back to the days when people sold votes and people would require some sort of proof that you cast the ballot the same way. There are restrictions on filming inside a polling place due to these concerns in most states.
Godhumor
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For so many reasons.