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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:37 PM Feb 2016

Who believes this crystalizes what this election is about?

APRIL 18, 2014
Is America an Oligarchy?
BY JOHN CASSIDY
From the Dept. of Academics Confirming Something You Already Suspected comes a new study concluding that rich people and organizations representing business interests have a powerful grip on U.S. government policy. After examining differences in public opinion across income groups on a wide variety of issues, the political scientists Martin Gilens, of Princeton, and Benjamin Page, of Northwestern, found that the preferences of rich people had a much bigger impact on subsequent policy decisions than the views of middle-income and poor Americans. Indeed, the opinions of lower-income groups, and the interest groups that represent them, appear to have little or no independent impact on policy....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy




The original study:

From the Sept 2014 journal "Perspectives on Politics"

Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

ABSTRACT

Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.


The last paragraph of their findings:

Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a wide-spread (if still contested) franchise. But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

"...America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened."

I don't know if we will get another chance to change things if we wait for them to further consolidate their power. I especially believe that Hillary's court appointees will not be inclined to limit the power of money.

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Who believes this crystalizes what this election is about? (Original Post) kristopher Feb 2016 OP
The less than 1% do dominate the government, of this there is no doubt. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #1
I think this specific information kristopher Feb 2016 #2
K&R SamKnause Feb 2016 #3
a heart for this post SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #4
Thank you. kristopher Feb 2016 #7
I've often said Democracy and Capitalism don't mix Hydra Feb 2016 #5
Some FaceBook wisdom I agree with kristopher Feb 2016 #6

Uncle Joe

(58,354 posts)
1. The less than 1% do dominate the government, of this there is no doubt.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:40 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks for the thread, kristopher.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. I think this specific information
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:06 AM
Feb 2016

dry that it might be, should be known by every voter.

You're welcome. Please share the study whenever you have a chance.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. Some FaceBook wisdom I agree with
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:02 AM
Feb 2016
Can we agree that you can't have socialism without capitalism or it becomes communism;

and can we also agree that you can't have capitalism without socialism or it becomes fascism?
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