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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:35 PM Feb 2016

Primary Poll: Who did you initially support in the 2008 Primary Process?

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John Edwards
17 (40%)
Joe Biden
1 (2%)
Barack Obama
13 (31%)
Dennis Kucinich
7 (17%)
Hillary Clinton
3 (7%)
Mike Gravel
1 (2%)
Bill Richardson
0 (0%)
Chris Dodd
0 (0%)
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Primary Poll: Who did you initially support in the 2008 Primary Process? (Original Post) Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 OP
I voted for Obama because he was going to get us change. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #1
I voted for Hillary but voted for Obama in the general. yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #28
Obama--now Bernie Sanders. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #2
Bill Richardson wyldwolf Feb 2016 #3
ooops olddots Feb 2016 #4
Obama. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #5
Passed because my progression went like this Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #6
Edwards. zappaman Feb 2016 #7
Hey, at least you didnt change your username to "Edwardsrocks" or something Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #8
Kucinich. When he bowed out and hifiguy Feb 2016 #9
Same Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #14
I forgot for a moment -- -- Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #10
Yeah I started out on Kooch too. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #13
My original '08 dream ticket was Wesley Clark/John Edwards rocktivity Feb 2016 #11
I'll admit I initially supported Mike__M Feb 2016 #12
John Kerry until he opted not to run karynnj Feb 2016 #16
I didnt include kerry because iirc he was never an actual declared candidate, just FWIW Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #17
Absolutely correct, but given that I spent hours in DU JK and still think he was the finest karynnj Feb 2016 #18
I actually went back and looked at my posts, in response to general allegations in GDP that Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #20
In 2004, I wanted either Dean or Kerry -- then chose Kerry karynnj Feb 2016 #21
I voted Edwards, but really first I liked Obama, then I was worried about him being too Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #19
Kucinich (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #22
Hillary is Consistent -- No one ever likes her. nt studyshare Feb 2016 #23
John Edwards ==> Obama John Poet Feb 2016 #24
I was an Obama supporter before it was cool! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #25
Back around Christmas of 2006 I told my friend that my dream ticket was Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #26
It's long past time for a bearded President again. Richardson. Recursion Feb 2016 #27
John Edwards redwitch Feb 2016 #29
I started with Clinton and switched to Obama, when I became convinced he could win the GE brooklynite Feb 2016 #30
Obama. Loved him from the first.. one_voice Feb 2016 #31
I was blown away by his keynote in '04 as well. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #35
In 2008 HRC was never on my radar or voting list. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #32
I wanted Al Gore to run ms liberty Feb 2016 #33
Yeah, Gore was far and away my very first choice both in '04 and '08. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #34

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
1. I voted for Obama because he was going to get us change.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

Now I'm voting for Bernie because although Obama got some change he did not get the changes for the middle class that I wanted or that he promised. Bernie is for what I want.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. I voted for Hillary but voted for Obama in the general.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

I have always liked her warts and all. Warts is not about Hillary at all.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. Hey, at least you didnt change your username to "Edwardsrocks" or something
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:05 PM
Feb 2016

Imagine being stuck with something along those lines.

I think situations like that people should be able to petition admin for some leeway on switching.

Response to Warren DeMontague (Original post)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Kucinich. When he bowed out and
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

suggested his supporters go to Obama I was impressed. The Kennedy endorsements sealed the deal for me. Never once even considered HRC.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
10. I forgot for a moment -- --
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

I was a Kuch supporter, then Edwards and then O when I grew disgusted with Clinton's tactics. I was never a big fan of his, but he was better than Clinton to me at that point.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
11. My original '08 dream ticket was Wesley Clark/John Edwards
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:14 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:27 PM - Edit history (2)

But you're asking about the actual primary...

I preferred Obama because of Hillary's DLC ties, but was fully prepared to back her once his pipe dream of a campaign came to a humiliating end no later than the first Super Tuesday. He wasn't expected to win my state's primary -- and didn't -- but I voted for him because I decided it would probably be as close as I would ever come to voting for a black presidential candidate!


rocktivity

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
12. I'll admit I initially supported
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:02 PM
Feb 2016

Sen. Mike "Who-are-we-planning-to-nuke" Gravel, until he dropped out, then Kucinich for a week or two until he dropped out, then Obama.
I believed and resented the inevitability argument at the beginning, and hoped Edwards could push things leftward.
Gravel was a true fringe candidate, who got in to push his pet issue, but he was shouting things on the debate stage that needed to be shouted, and I wanted to see him up there poking the establishment for as long as possible.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. I didnt include kerry because iirc he was never an actual declared candidate, just FWIW
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks for your answer, btw.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
18. Absolutely correct, but given that I spent hours in DU JK and still think he was the finest
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

leader and statesman of his generation - in spite of never becoming President , I had to list him.

In retrospect had he continued with a run, history would have changed -- and probably not with him winning. Had he stayed in he would have split the anti Hillary vote with Obama, who I think would still have run - and I suspect that could have led to a HRC win or no one getting enough delegates.

Had he run, he could not have run for re-election and there is no way that Clinton would have put him in her government - as Obama did her.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. I actually went back and looked at my posts, in response to general allegations in GDP that
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders supporters were being hypocritical on Hillary's IWR vote.

I said plainly and early on that i felt we needed to run someone who could articulate a moral argument against that war without the baggage of having voted for it. That, to my mind, disqualified kerry, edwards and Hillary at the time. So at least ive been consistent.

I have great respect for John Kerry, mind you, and i did support him in the '04 primaries, but in retrospect i think we may have done better with someone who hadnt voted for the iwr. As it was, i wish he had fought back harder amd sooner against corsi and the swift boat shit. That was a tactical error imho.

But still have scads of respect for the man.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
21. In 2004, I wanted either Dean or Kerry -- then chose Kerry
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:15 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think that anyone could have done better than Kerry did in 2004. Remember, Bush was at about 60 percent in December 2003. No one else could have completely blown Bush away in that first foreign policy debate.

As to the war vote, I had followed both of them from 2002 on. Dean supported at least as aggressive a position on Saddam as Kerry before the vote. He did say he would have voted for Biden/Lugar, but he did not have to vote. Not to mention, where Clinton and Edwards were fully behind the invasion, Kerry in January was saying not to rush to war and was labeled anti-war until the IWR vote became a litmus test mid 2003 - largely by the Dean campaign. Kerry's history and his comments made me comfortable that he was absolutely not a hawk. Having protested in DC and NYC with three preteen and teen daughters, I would not have supported him in the primary if I would have thought that he was a hawk.

Though a strong moral argument against the war could have worked in the Primary, the country was definitely not ready for that. In fact, Kerry DID state a strong moral argument - though many missed it. Every day, in his standard speech he said that Bush mislead us into war by not exhausting the diplomacy as he promised - thus it was not a war of last resort. I know people who that greatly angered because it meant that the war the US was fighting was not a just war. (My Catholic mom, a wing voter, was absolutely furious because of that.) She voted for Obama in 2008. In his case, he was not giving a moral case, but said it was "a dumb war" and that it was a blunder.


 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
19. I voted Edwards, but really first I liked Obama, then I was worried about him being too
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

centrist (which turns out to be the case), so I went to Edwards, because he was talking about poverty and such, and then back to Obama once the crap hit the fan with Edwards. ... Never, ever Hillary, though.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
26. Back around Christmas of 2006 I told my friend that my dream ticket was
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

Obama/Richardson

He thought I was nuts.


(I like Biden too, but I didn't think 2 Senators on the same ticket was a great idea.)



Recursion

(56,582 posts)
27. It's long past time for a bearded President again. Richardson.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

I think I had switched to Edwards by Iowa, though.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
29. John Edwards
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

It was his Two Americas speech that resonated with me.

As I got to see and hear Barack Obama I was pleased and ultimately voted for him.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
30. I started with Clinton and switched to Obama, when I became convinced he could win the GE
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016

I would do the same with Sanders. So far, I haven't seen a solid argument.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
31. Obama. Loved him from the first..
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

time I saw him in '04.

I would have voted for our eventual Nominee. I wasn't here in '08. I was posting on Politico and none of the threads exist anymore..I looked.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. I was blown away by his keynote in '04 as well.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:29 AM
Feb 2016

I think I started DU not long after the March for Womens Lives in DC. (2004) I was feeling particularly engaged.

ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
33. I wanted Al Gore to run
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

When he didn't, I picked Obama. I still think he was the best choice of the group that ran. He's been a good president, although he has also disappointed me in some areas by not being as liberal/progressive as I wanted. Hillary was my last choice in 08, as she is now.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
34. Yeah, Gore was far and away my very first choice both in '04 and '08.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

Hell, I'd support him this year if he got in.

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