90 Precincts not correctly recorded - due to understaffing----

[bettyellen]

they are asking them to "recreate the caucuses"
WTF?

[NowSam]

1. Shenanigans! eom

[awake]

2. link?

[bettyellen]

6. It's on CNN now- a reporter was at the airport w/ Sanders and staff.....

[bettyellen]

3. sounds like they want them to go back do their own recounts- or recreations?

WEIRD.

[tk2kewl]

4. link?

[bettyellen]

10. live CNN now- they got it from Sanders people at the airport. The party wants to...

sounds like a recount of 90 pcts, but not sure why they are calling it "recreating" the votes. Odd.

[snot]

5. Who is asking?

[bettyellen]

8. Sanders people are saying "the party" is asking for this- because they were understaffed?!?!?

[PowerToThePeople]

11. DWS has a sad.

[tk2kewl]

17. .

[bettyellen]

30. this is pissing me off. i thought it was a great night for everyone, dammit.

[florida08]

7. I call BS

something nefarious afoot

[MissDeeds]

14. Yep

Agree completely.

[MissDeeds]

9. OMG

[bettyellen]

13. if they are at 98% now- how many pcts are not counted, I wonder?

Has to be less than 90%. So odd. And now it's at 99% and split even. WOW.

[MissDeeds]

29. MSNBC now reporting

on problems with failure to staff ninety precients. The heiress anointed herself winner before the votes were counted. Yeah, that's democratic.

[bettyellen]

33. she really didn't declare victory, she pretty much acknowledged it's her and Bernie now.

Neither did Bernie.
I thought that was pretty cool. They both had to make statements before midnight, and they did.

[MissDeeds]

36. That's not what I saw

and what was reported on MSNBC. They were stunned that Hillary said she won.

[bettyellen]

37. no- Maddow and them said flat out it was not a victory speech after they heard it.....

it was just speculation beforehand- LOL- that it was going to be a victory speech. the closest thing she said was she was breathing a sigh of relief, and looked forward to debating Bernie.


LOL, stop repeating nonsense.

[MissDeeds]

40. We'll agree to disagree

The nine people here with me watching the results see it differently.


Nonsense much? We have a difference of opinion. No need to be rude.

[bettyellen]

42. Well, then you weren't watching NBC after the speech- because that is ALL they talked about

for 3-5 minutes after her speech ended. And they were unanimous. so yeah- they did not call it a victory speech.

[Half-Century Man]

53. TYT noted the same thing.

She didn't declare herself victorious.

[bettyellen]

54. I'm seeing that complete bullshit treated as gospel here, LOL.

Just saw it in another OP. People are actually posting completely contrary to what the MSNBC reporters said after the speech. I am shocked, LOL!

[bettyellen]

49. spellcheck is kicking my ass- but what is your excuse?

[snot]

12. Also, why has the updating re- the remaining unreported precincts slowed to a snail's pace?

[bettyellen]

15. It looks like they think they lost some totals? Not sure!

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Reported on Bernie TV - Bernie is waiting until all precincts have reported and if things still look

fishy, he's calling for all Raw data to be released for a recount.

New scandal brewing - 90 precincts NOT STAFFED! OUTRAGEOUS.

PEACE
LOVE
BE

[winter is coming]

19. What sort of raw data would have been generated? Especially for an unstaffed precinct? n/t

[bettyellen]

24. They must be wrong but they said the pct captains would have to come back and "recreate" the votes?

Very odd choice of words. Now they are at 99%?!?! What?

[winter is coming]

26. This makes no sense. Seems very odd. n/t

[bettyellen]

28. Yes, because they just added another 1% of the vote? How big is 90 pcts?

[winter is coming]

31. I don't have the website open now but there were only fifty-something precincts outstanding.

So are they possibly going to correct/change vote totals?

[bettyellen]

35. It looks like they believe too much was botched and has to be redone somehow?

Now they are at 50/50% again, with 99% showing. It was .02 different a moment ago at 99%. LOL.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. You'll have to ask Bernie. I just reported what I heard. Raw data = paper totals before they go into

the Microsoft app? I don't know.

The unstaffed precincts (90) just aren't being counted at all, or the citizens did the counting? Again, I don't know.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[bettyellen]

21. CNN made it sound like everyone thinks it is needed? More than the who they kept saying the

people (including pct captains) had to come back and recreate their tallies. But I thought the initial report was he talked with people at both campaigns, but later he kept mentioning Sanders.
So, no tally tonight. Meh, it;s the best tie ever, I guess.

[Arazi]

18. Wow! Kicked and recced

[Live and Learn]

20. What a system. nt

[bettyellen]

22. I like it- more good press for Dems! We don't have people celebrating 30% of the vote, LOL!

[MrMickeysMom]

23. Where's Rehnquist when you need him?

[bettyellen]

25. love your pilates cat!

[MrMickeysMom]

43. That's how I feel now...

Just came back after a hot shower (should be asleep) and I may as well hang it like this little guy!

[Stellar]

32. Is this a repeat of 2012? We found out who really won Iowa after the election in November, NT

[bettyellen]

34. I thought the tie was a great story! This is ruining my night, those fuck ups.

[tk2kewl]

38. seems like DNC'd let it go, given that Polk Co went pretty heavily for Clinton

53.2 - 46.1

something seems fishy

[bettyellen]

39. I think it was awesome night, no matter. I doubt it will mean one delegate difference.

[tk2kewl]

41. i of course agree that it was a great night

this redo thing is pretty weird though. i'm not watching the teevee, are they still talking about it?

[bettyellen]

44. CNN still says so, someone on another thread says the DNC denies it.....

I know the original thing came from a reporter saying he was literally with Sanders and staff and that is where he learned of it. Unclear who exactly says the recount is needed? All but 3 delegates counted?

[tk2kewl]

45. thanks

[bettyellen]

47. Rachel Maddow is as dumbfounded as I am, LOL. She is stuttering..... and just showed the

front pages of the Iowa register and the NY Daily News. Trump is painted as a clown in the News, LOL.
The Register called it a draw for Dems. Cool.

[tk2kewl]

50. NY Daily News - Dead Clown Walking

http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2516964.1454395469!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/index_635_390/390-gop-0201.jpg

[tblue37]

51. Considering he had NO ground game, while Cruz was massively organized, Trump actually

did pretty well in Iowa.

The media are deliberately running a narrative about what a huge loser Trump is for coming in second, but Cruz's evangelical appeal was always going to make him an Iowa favorite among the Republicans, and evangelical attendance at the GOP caucuses was slightly over 65%.

Trump has a 28 point lead in NH, I think, so he is likely to win there and in some other early states. I guess the media are trying out the narrative of his being a big loser as a way of amping up the all-important horserace aspect on the GOP side.

I think Rubio is more dangerous than Trump , because Rubio has the backing of the deep pocket donors now that Bush has washed out, and Rubio is just slick enough to fool low-information voters.

[bettyellen]

52. Trying to figure out those hateful morons..... my head hurts. UGH.

[bettyellen]

46. live report from Clinton's people from Andrea Mitchell- two top aides say they believe they did win.

they had internal tallies, so they believe so. But the tally might not have been final when Hillary spoke. But they seem sure now. They were not aware about the 90 pct dispute while taking off- and say that must be coming from Sanders camp.

[wordpix]

55. DU thread reporting on coin tosses to determine Hill as "winner"

She won all 6 coin tosses and at least that many delegates

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141333788

[NurseJackie]

56. No do-overs.

[Odin2005]

57. PARTY ESTABLISHMENT SHENANIGANS!!!

[restorefreedom]

58. this is not a surprise

we knew the establishment would not go down easy

and we have to be prepared for anything

fortunately, bernies team is ready.