It's been clear for weeks that Sanders had closed the gap in Iowa and could win there

[Empowerer]

So why is the media acting like tonight's results are an upset or even a surprise?

[hobbit709]

1. Nice spin considering a lot of your OPs lately.

[Empowerer]

5. What spin?

I just stated a fact. But, your obsession with my OPs and posts is quite endearing.

Happy reading...

[hobbit709]

10. No obsession, I just have a very good retention quotient of what I read.

There's very little that I might obsees about and you're not on the list. Very few people are.

[Empowerer]

16. You spend a lot of time "retaining" what I've written - I guess I should be glad that you're so

interested in what I have to say.

[hobbit709]

19. I retain over 95% of EVERYTHING I read.

sometimes it's a curse when I want to clear it out of my memory and can't.

[beam me up scottie]

6. No kidding.

[virtualobserver]

2. the polls were all over the map

and Hillary was doing a full court press, along with Bill

[saltpoint]

3. Spin it. Spin it good. eom

[Empowerer]

7. What am I spinning? I merely stated a fact

A fact that Sanders supporters have been stressing for weeks.

[saltpoint]

9. Sorry your gal didn't stampede Iowa.

She may eke it out. But she may not.

That victory declaration was real low rent.

[Empowerer]

12. I never expected her to nor claimed that she would "stampede" Iowa

So your pity is misplaced.

[saltpoint]

13. She declared victory before the outcome

was determined.

Guess she doesn't have much respect for the idea of citizens voting.

[Empowerer]

15. SHE didn't declare anything. Someone on her campaign jumped the gun and said something stupid

Her speech was very gracious and did not claim that she had won.

[saltpoint]

17. Bad form. She ought to have known better. eom

[Happenstance24]

4. When it comes to all politics, the media's rule is...No horse race, no ratings. -nt

[cui bono]

8. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

omg... thank you for the biggest laugh I just had.



Priceless.

.

[morningfog]

11. Hillary was surprised too.

[Bonobo]

14. LOL, he closed an enormous gap. That is the story.

YOu can't pretend he wasn't a massive underdog.

Tonight was a huge win for our side.

[R B Garr]

18. I noticed that, too. Since at least December, it's been

non-stop media coverage that the demographics suit him because of lack of diversity. Then ALL the blather about Iowa voters being notoriously undecided until the last minute and easily influenced by newcomers. Now they are all *surprised*. LOL.

Great observation!

[Empowerer]

22. You're always free to skip any thread you find difficult to handle

If watching us is so difficult for you, I suspect that opening up our threads, reading through them and then jumping in to make serial snarky comments all throughout must be sheer torture.

[rosesaylavee]

21. Because he overcame tremendous odds - my thoughts why this happened:

-He's not taken money from any PACs. They didn't think he would have enough money to compete with ads, staff, etc.
-He's not had much media coverage at all. 10 minutes in all of 2015 on one of the big stations, I forget which one.
-Secy. Clinton has much greater name recognition.
-The debates, where people could have become better acquainted with him and his proposed polices were held on odd nights when most were not home to watch television -- and most of the debates were held on cable television -- a few were not viewable without a subscription. (I know this as we don't have cable.)
-Several major pollsters also had him losing terribly tonight - Nate Silver for one.

It does seem a bit odd at first glance but given all of the above and other intangibles like America loves an underdog and he's certainly one of those -- this will be a topic for at least the next news cycle.

For me personally, I support him as his passion about addressing Climate Change almost matches mine. He could crank it up several notches IMO as this is the Crisis no one wants to talk about or think about but it's not going away but only getting worse while we collectively ignore it. He is against fracking, against more tarsand oil pipelines -- supports a price on carbon (which would stop or slow down all that craziness), among other things for me. But that's the big issue as I see it. Secy. Clinton doesn't mention much about Climate Change except in terms of economics - jobs to be created, etc. Which will be nice and I will support if she becomes our nominee. But the crisis needs more than solar panel jobs. Sen. Sanders speaks about this is as crisis to be addressed. Clinton does not. Or doesn't yet. I would like to hear her speak about this more. It would make me less anxious about a Clinton presidency.

[Dem2]

23. YOU HAVE AN AGENDA!! How could you say such a thing!!!11!!!

Ignore the Huffpo plot that was shared here dozens of times.

/s

I can't believe the hateful venom some are spewing at you - any person with an ounce of integrity knew that plots like the above were available to everybody and posted here regularly.

[catnhatnh]

25. How about because as recently

as 8:30 pm tonight there were polls showing him losing by almost double digits...

[Fumesucker]

26. Hillary and Bill celebrate their glorious victory over the inevitable Bernie Sanders in Iowa

[Ken Burch]

27. Because there was a poll out in the morning saying HRC was eight points up.

You guys were acting like you had this all sewn up.

[Empowerer]

28. I'm not sure who "you guys" is, but I never posted a poll or claimed that anyone had this "sewn up"

But I DID see a whole lot of Sanders supporters taunting and prancing the last few days, crowing about how Sanders was going to wipe the floor with Clinton.