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Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:27 AM

 

Can we cancel the debates?

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It occurred to me this morning that it might be for the best if we cancel the debates.

See, Obama is not making Romney look bad. Obama is not really making himself look any better. Romney is making Romney look bad.

Under those circumstances, the debates are Romney's last, best chance to make himself look better. He can't be trusted off-script but for the debate his remarks will be scripted and rehearsed. He will be coached not to be himself. He might improve his image and energize his base.

...unless of course he offers Obama a $10,000 bet...

but he'd never do that in a DEBATE?

P.S. Now go here -->
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251110711 for a productive discussion

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Reply Can we cancel the debates? (Original post)
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 OP
KurtNYC Sep 2012 #1
Cary Sep 2012 #6
Raven Sep 2012 #2
Cary Sep 2012 #5
Drale Sep 2012 #3
Whisp Sep 2012 #40
Cary Sep 2012 #4
Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #7
Cary Sep 2012 #9
Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #13
Cary Sep 2012 #18
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 #16
Cary Sep 2012 #23
Xyzse Sep 2012 #32
Arkana Sep 2012 #8
Rowdyboy Sep 2012 #10
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 #21
Viva_La_Revolution Sep 2012 #11
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 #19
Viva_La_Revolution Sep 2012 #38
cbayer Sep 2012 #12
Cary Sep 2012 #25
SDjack Sep 2012 #14
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 #17
jberryhill Sep 2012 #15
magical thyme Sep 2012 #20
WI_DEM Sep 2012 #22
union_maid Sep 2012 #24
Cary Sep 2012 #26
valerief Sep 2012 #28
valerief Sep 2012 #27
Cary Sep 2012 #30
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 #33
Cary Sep 2012 #34
TrogL Sep 2012 #29
thelordofhell Sep 2012 #31
arcane1 Sep 2012 #35
Egnever Sep 2012 #36
HopelesslyLiberal Sep 2012 #39
Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #37
grantcart Sep 2012 #41
Hippo_Tron Sep 2012 #42

Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:32 AM

1. Obama is completely kicking ass.

Sweep!

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:39 AM

6. Yes. Absolutely.

And it's reaping down ballot dividends.

Bring it!

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:32 AM

2. No way! These debates are a way for

the American people to take a real measure of each candidate and we deserve to have them. I remember the Kennedy/Nixon debates (yes, I'm that old) and I think the American people then got a look at one candidate who was incredibly wooden and uncomfortable in his own skin and the other who was relaxed and confortable and human. It made a big difference.

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Response to Raven (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:38 AM

5. Great point. n/t

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:33 AM

3. Every time the President speaks, he makes himself look better

The debates are the Presidents change to destroy Mittens. Mittens can't even read from a prepared statement without making himself sound bad, how do you think he is going to do in a debate setting?

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Response to Drale (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:13 PM

40. you got that right.

wonder why the OP would say otherwise.


hmmmmm..... spider senses tingling.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:36 AM

4. Obama is not really making himself look any better?

At this point he kind of has a track record. He beat Alan Keyes (well, okay I'll give you that one but he would have beaten Ryan). He beat Hilary Clinton. He beat McCain.

The fact that you don't see him making himself look any better may be because he and Axelrod are making it look easy. I think you're wrong. Barack Obama and David Axelrod are very, very good at this.

Sure, Rmoney has a chance in the debates to reverse his horrific campaign. But what part of his record, and the record of his campaign, makes you think he has the skill and talent to pull that off?

Also you neglect the realities of the Republican Party itself. I think Mitt is a terrible candidate but I'm not sure any candidate would thrive in the current Republican universe. This is the problem with a party that is hijacked by its extremists.

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Response to Cary (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:39 AM

7. Alan Keyes was a pretty good debater. His ideas were just crazy.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:42 AM

9. He was also a carpetbagger.

The radical right engineered a coup, taking out Jack Ryan for not having sex with his wife and putting in their more radical extremist.

It wasn't going to work here in Illinois. We are a moderate state. Our Republicans up to that point were primarily moderates. It was a precursor of things to come for Republicans nationally.

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Response to Cary (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:53 AM

13. We here in Maryland know so much about this dude. When he tried to run for Senate here,

he was beaten to a pulp. We don't take too well to crazy right-wing ideologies here. Even Bob Ehrlich knew better.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:04 PM

18. Love it!

Keep up the good work.

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Response to Cary (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:03 PM

16. What I mean is

 

...image wise, he looks pretty darn good. He'd have to do a lot to really make himself look better. He's in the position where any little thing can hurt his image but not a lot will actually improve his image.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:08 PM

23. I accept your right to have an opinion

You want to play it safe, I guess. You want to coast.

Not me. I want to drive the stake through their heart. Their zombie ideology has given us war and depression.

No mercy. No letup.

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Response to Cary (Reply #23)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:22 PM

32. Always Double Tap

You never know when they're really down.

Any how, I wouldn't want to be the one to cancel on the debates.
It would make you look weak or trying to hide.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:41 AM

8. No.

It would be seen as the ultimate cowardly move, and it would be spun by the entire media as "Obama is afraid to debate Romney".

All Obama has to do is not screw up. Romney has to attack, attack, attack, and hope Obama screws up so badly that the state polls start to shift.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:51 AM

10. Nice try but HELL NO! Time to kick Rmoney like a DOG while he's DOWN!

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Response to Rowdyboy (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:06 PM

21. I would NEVER kick a DOG

 

...but the image of Romney curled in a fetal position and being kicked by laid off employees makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:52 AM

11. Hell no

Obama just has to stand there and let Rmoney talk. Why would you be willing to give up such an easy win?

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:05 PM

19. because if the GOP gets smart...

 

THEY won't let him talk either. They'll find some way to make him lipsynch his remarks.

Wait, that would require imagination wouldn't it?

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:06 PM

38. that would require romney having good self-control

and it's obvious he doesn't. there's nothing they can do now but attempt to control the inevitable damage.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:52 AM

12. I think the debates will seal the deal.

They will give Obama the opportunity to explain, in words that most americans can understand, what he had accomplished and what he wants to accomplish next.

Romney will not be able to do this.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:09 PM

25. It is about their ideology.

Rmoney will not be able to do this.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:54 AM

14. Willard will be mentally exhausted before the first debate. He

will check into a hospital because his "vocal cords" are strained. The debate will be canceled.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:04 PM

17. LOL!

 

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:55 AM

15. Lol no

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:05 PM

20. well I suppose if he didn't want a 2nd term he could cancel



Anybody coached to "not be themselves" will be wooden at best. Coached, lying Romney is wooden and frozen.

If Romney decides to go for broke and be himself, well, we've seen him and it's not good.

Either way, if he loses his temper -- and he is known to have an ugly temper, as well as not being used to being questioned -- he will show his ugly character.

Other than chickening out of a 2nd term, there is no reason in the world to cancel the debates.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:07 PM

22. Only if you want Romney to move up in the polls--it would hurt Obama not Romney

if Obama suddenly cancelled debates.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:09 PM

24. It'll be fine. Just fine, even without the bet.

Romney wants this - needs this - so much more than Obama does. I can already see the flop sweat forming. Even if MSM gives them to Romney, that doesn't always make it so. Remember in 2008? The talking heads kept saying that McCain won - at least two of them. Maybe not so much the one where he was kind of wandering around being bizarre, but the others. And the pundits were quite surprised when their instant polls kept coming back that the public thought Obama won. And people tended to LIKE McCain. Romney seems to repulse amost everyone.

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Response to union_maid (Reply #24)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:11 PM

26. Rmoney does have a temper

I predict that President Obama will get to him.

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Response to Cary (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:14 PM

28. Prez O is probably foaming at the mouth for these debates.

I hope he enjoys them as much as we will.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:13 PM

27. Are you insane? Cancel the best comedy bit of the decade?

I'm soooooo looking forward to this.

And I hope Obama makes a 10 grand bet and then says, "Only kidding. Betting that much money would be ridiculous as well as inappropriate."

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Response to valerief (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:16 PM

30. ROTFLMAO

We should start a thread on suggestions for things President Obama should say to Rmoney in the debate to set him off.

I am going to do that right now.

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Response to Cary (Reply #30)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:23 PM

33. LINK!

 

Post the link!

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:14 PM

29. I don't think the debates will change anything unless Obama alienates people

The mouth-breathing crowd (asthma and other respiratory tract problem sufferers exempt) will be pissed off because Obama uses three-syllable words but they vote Repug anyway because they're authoritarian followers who see Rmoney as their leader come hell or high water.

I think it's going to be a question of who puts their foot in it as opposed to any sort of rational debate.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:19 PM

31. Romney needs to be searched for earwig receivers before the debate

How soon do we forget about George's debate scoliosis............

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:49 PM

35. Obama is going to obliterate Mitt in the debates

Count on it.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:35 PM

36. WTF?

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Response to Egnever (Reply #36)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 05:31 PM

39. it's sarcasm

 

..hey, we can't all be Stewart or Colbert

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:35 PM

37. The OP didn't say..

...WHO should cancel the debates.

What if Romney did? He would have Ann pick him up in of her Cadillacs, drive him home and distract him by riding the car elevator for several weeks. "Isn't this fun honey? Much better than pretending to work for a living, right?"

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:39 PM

41. Why yes we can. There is a special provision among the Bipartisan Presidential Debate Commisssion

that specifically allows for a cancellation under the following circumstances;



Article 56

"If 123 members of the liberal discussion community Democratic Underground sign agreement on a thread advocating the elimination of the debates then all of the history, tradition and negotiations of the Bipartisan Presidential Debate Commission will be considered null and void and no presidential debates will be held that election cycle.



So its up to us.

Its a big responsibility.

Think of the children before you decide.

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Response to HopelesslyLiberal (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

42. Maybe time we brought this back?

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