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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"In many ways, Clinton is a disciple of Kissinger..."
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/12/emails_expose_close_ties_between_hillary_clinton_and_accused_war_criminal_henry_kissinger/Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state, Clinton revealed in the review. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels.
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As just some of the myriad examples of his crimes, in The Trial of Henry Kissinger, Hitchens documented Kissingers implications in the following:
1. The deliberate mass killing of civilian populations in Indochina.
2. Deliberate collusion in mass murder, and later in assassination, in Bangladesh.
3. The personal suborning and planning of murder, of a senior constitutional officer in a democratic nation Chile with which the United States was not at war.
4. Personal involvement in a plan to murder the head of state in the democratic nation of Cyprus.
5. The incitement and enabling of genocide in East Timor
6. Personal involvement in a plan to kidnap and murder a journalist living in Washington, D.C.
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In many ways, Clinton is a disciple of Kissinger and his aggressive, so-called realist school of foreign policy. Just as Clinton has overseen destructive wars and continuously pushed for military-heavy positions on Syria, Ukraine and more, Kissinger promoted a madman strategy in Vietnam, trying to make enemies believe the U.S. might be crazy enough to use a nuclear bomb.
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"In many ways, Clinton is a disciple of Kissinger..." (Original Post)
Karmadillo
Jan 2016
OP
Maybe Sanders could get an education on foreign policy from Kissenger, he should at least try.
Thinkingabout
Jan 2016
#1
You want him to take advice from a war criminal? Did you even read the op?
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#12
Kissinger promoted reckless, insane, immoral escapades; haven't we learned???????
amborin
Feb 2016
#13
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)1. Maybe Sanders could get an education on foreign policy from Kissenger, he should at least try.
polly7
(20,582 posts)2. Are you serious? nt.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)4. Seriously?
Hillary likes him so Democrats now suddenly love and respect Henry Fucking Kissinger? That's insane.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)5. Oh god no
fuck - - that is the most shocking thing I have ever read here
amborin
(16,631 posts)6. surely you jest; this is beyond absurd nt
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)8. Seriously? What the fuck?
SamKnause
(13,091 posts)10. WTF ???
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)12. You want him to take advice from a war criminal? Did you even read the op?
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)14. gross
John Poet
(2,510 posts)15. Yeah, and maybe advice on women's issues from Charlie Manson?
There's little to choose between them... but what's a little murder and genocide between friends, right?
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)16. Are you seriously defending THAT FUCKING MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL???
Autumn
(45,012 posts)3. I remember Kissingers tenure well.
Not interested.
polly7
(20,582 posts)7. Kick.
Despite warnings by senior US officials that thousands of Chileans were being tortured and slaughtered, then Secretary of State Kissinger told Pinochet, "You did a great service to the West in overthrowing Allende."
Rather than calling peaceful protesters despicable, perhaps Senator McCain should have used that term to describe Kissingers role in the brutal 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor, which took place just hours after Kissinger and President Ford visited Indonesia. They had given the Indonesian strongman the US green lightand the weaponsfor an invasion that led to a 25-year occupation in which over 100,000 soldiers and civilians were killed or starved to death. The UN's Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation in East Timor (CAVR) stated that U.S. "political and military support were fundamental to the Indonesian invasion and occupation" of East Timor.
If McCain could stomach it, he could have read the report by the UN Commission on Human Rights describing the horrific consequences of that invasion. It includes gang rape of female detainees following periods of prolonged sexual torture; placing women in tanks of water for prolonged periods, including submerging their heads, before being raped; the use of snakes to instill terror during sexual torture; and the mutilation of womens sexual organs, including insertion of batteries into vaginas and burning nipples and genitals with cigarettes. Talk about physical intimidation, Senator McCain!
Rather than calling peaceful protesters despicable, perhaps Senator McCain should have used that term to describe Kissingers role in the brutal 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor, which took place just hours after Kissinger and President Ford visited Indonesia. They had given the Indonesian strongman the US green lightand the weaponsfor an invasion that led to a 25-year occupation in which over 100,000 soldiers and civilians were killed or starved to death. The UN's Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation in East Timor (CAVR) stated that U.S. "political and military support were fundamental to the Indonesian invasion and occupation" of East Timor.
If McCain could stomach it, he could have read the report by the UN Commission on Human Rights describing the horrific consequences of that invasion. It includes gang rape of female detainees following periods of prolonged sexual torture; placing women in tanks of water for prolonged periods, including submerging their heads, before being raped; the use of snakes to instill terror during sexual torture; and the mutilation of womens sexual organs, including insertion of batteries into vaginas and burning nipples and genitals with cigarettes. Talk about physical intimidation, Senator McCain!
More: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/01/30/henry-kissinger-or-codepink-whos-low-life-scum
angrychair
(8,685 posts)9. My friends
Vote for a "Dem" that spends her personal time, away from the public eye, with the Bushes and Trumps and Henry Kissinger and counts them as her friends.
Yep, not sure about you but I would never call war criminals and xenophobic racist my friends.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)11. Wikipedia's Condor article alone
demonstrates that Kissinger is ... problematic as a mentor in international affairs.
Henry Kissinger[edit]
Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State in the Nixon and Ford administrations, was closely involved diplomatically with the Southern Cone governments at the time and well aware of the Condor plan. According to the French newspaper L'Humanité, the first cooperation agreements were signed between the CIA and anti-Castro groups, and the right-wing death squad Triple A, set up in Argentina by Juan Perón and Isabel Martínez de Perón's "personal secretary" José López Rega, and Rodolfo Almirón (arrested in Spain in 2006).[80]
On 31 May 2001, French judge Roger Le Loire requested that a summons be served on Henry Kissinger while he was staying at the Hôtel Ritz in Paris. Le Loire wanted to question the statesman as a witness regarding alleged U.S. involvement in Operation Condor and for possible US knowledge concerning the "disappearances" of five French nationals in Chile during military rule. Kissinger left Paris that evening, and Loire's inquiries were directed to the U.S. State Department.[81]
In July 2001, the Chilean high court granted investigating judge Juan Guzmán the right to question Kissinger about the 1973 killing of American journalist Charles Horman. (His execution by the Chilean military after the coup was dramatized in the 1982 Costa-Gavras film, Missing.) The judge's questions were relayed to Kissinger via diplomatic routes but were not answered.[82]
In August 2001, Argentine Judge Rodolfo Canicoba sent a letter rogatory to the US State Department, in accordance with the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT), requesting a deposition by Kissinger to aid the judge's investigation of Operation Condor.[83] On 10 September 2001, a civil suit was filed in a Washington, D.C., federal court by the family of Gen. René Schneider, murdered former Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Army, asserting that Kissinger ordered Schneider's murder because he refused to endorse plans for a military coup. Schneider was killed by coup-plotters loyal to General Roberto Viaux in a botched kidnapping attempt. As part of the suit, Schneider's two sons filed for civil damages against Kissinger and then-CIA director Richard Helms for $3 million.[84][85][86]
Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State in the Nixon and Ford administrations, was closely involved diplomatically with the Southern Cone governments at the time and well aware of the Condor plan. According to the French newspaper L'Humanité, the first cooperation agreements were signed between the CIA and anti-Castro groups, and the right-wing death squad Triple A, set up in Argentina by Juan Perón and Isabel Martínez de Perón's "personal secretary" José López Rega, and Rodolfo Almirón (arrested in Spain in 2006).[80]
On 31 May 2001, French judge Roger Le Loire requested that a summons be served on Henry Kissinger while he was staying at the Hôtel Ritz in Paris. Le Loire wanted to question the statesman as a witness regarding alleged U.S. involvement in Operation Condor and for possible US knowledge concerning the "disappearances" of five French nationals in Chile during military rule. Kissinger left Paris that evening, and Loire's inquiries were directed to the U.S. State Department.[81]
In July 2001, the Chilean high court granted investigating judge Juan Guzmán the right to question Kissinger about the 1973 killing of American journalist Charles Horman. (His execution by the Chilean military after the coup was dramatized in the 1982 Costa-Gavras film, Missing.) The judge's questions were relayed to Kissinger via diplomatic routes but were not answered.[82]
In August 2001, Argentine Judge Rodolfo Canicoba sent a letter rogatory to the US State Department, in accordance with the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT), requesting a deposition by Kissinger to aid the judge's investigation of Operation Condor.[83] On 10 September 2001, a civil suit was filed in a Washington, D.C., federal court by the family of Gen. René Schneider, murdered former Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Army, asserting that Kissinger ordered Schneider's murder because he refused to endorse plans for a military coup. Schneider was killed by coup-plotters loyal to General Roberto Viaux in a botched kidnapping attempt. As part of the suit, Schneider's two sons filed for civil damages against Kissinger and then-CIA director Richard Helms for $3 million.[84][85][86]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
amborin
(16,631 posts)13. Kissinger promoted reckless, insane, immoral escapades; haven't we learned???????