Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:22 AM

TroyD (4,472 posts)

POLITICO/GWU Battleground Poll: Obama pulls ahead of Romney (50-47)

Politico/Battleground poll (which has tended to lean Romney) has Obama up 50-47

9/24/12 4:34 AM EDT

President Barack Obama has opened a national lead in a tight race that’s been static for much of the year.

A new POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Poll of likely voters finds little good news for Mitt Romney but a race that remains competitive.

Obama leads 50 percent to 47 percent, which is within the margin of error. His 50 percent job approval rating puts him at a crucial threshold for an incumbent seeking reelection. It’s an uptick from the spring and summer, but 48 percent still disapprove.

Romney, meanwhile, finds himself sliding in the wake of two events — the choice of his running mate and the Republican national convention — that were supposed to buoy his candidacy. His unfavorable rating ticked up from 46 percent to 49 percent over the past seven weeks, as the share viewing him favorably held steady at 46 percent. Personal likability boosts the president, who is viewed favorably by 53 percent.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81582.html

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8 replies	Author	Time	Post
POLITICO/GWU Battleground Poll: Obama pulls ahead of Romney (50-47) (Original post)	TroyD	Sep 2012	OP
No worries, Romney. The next job report "could" tie things up	Blue Yorker	Sep 2012	#1
I'm actually a bit nervous about the Jobs Reports	TroyD	Sep 2012	#2
You are heeding a warning that's failed over and over	Blue Yorker	Sep 2012	#3
Independents	TroyD	Sep 2012	#4
First of all, it's a national poll!	longship	Sep 2012	#5
Wouldn't call it useless : )	TroyD	Sep 2012	#6
maybe not useless but extremely misleading.	DCBob	Sep 2012	#8
The Electoral Colllege Usually Follows The Popular Vote	DemocratSinceBirth	Sep 2012	#7

Response to TroyD (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:37 AM

Blue Yorker (436 posts)

1. No worries, Romney. The next job report "could" tie things up

Or something.

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Response to Blue Yorker (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:50 AM

TroyD (4,472 posts)

2. I'm actually a bit nervous about the Jobs Reports

While they aren't turning out to be determinative on the race, there are 2 more of them - one the Friday after the first debate, and the second the Friday before November 6.

You never know how they could go and so it's something to be cautious about.

Btw, why is Romney still polling well with Independents? He's up 2 points with them in this poll. I would have thought he would have fallen behind by now.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:53 AM

Blue Yorker (436 posts)

3. You are heeding a warning that's failed over and over

But it's ok to be nervous I guess.

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Response to Blue Yorker (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:58 AM

TroyD (4,472 posts)

4. Independents

What are your thoughts on how to beat Romney with Independents?

It seems to be one area where he is still holding on to a slim lead.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:07 AM

longship (18,217 posts)

5. First of all, it's a national poll!

Which are totally, and utterly useless under an electoral college system. Say what you will about the advantages/disadvantages of EVs, it is the system we have right now.

So the fucking national polls are useless in predicting the closeness of the results. it could be a dead heat in national polls and President Obama could still win with an electoral mandate.

This poll is useless, no matter what it says.

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Response to longship (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:10 AM

TroyD (4,472 posts)

6. Wouldn't call it useless : )

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It's got 2 other pieces of good news which parallel other emerging trends.

1. It gives Obama a 50% approval rating

2. It shows the Democrats with a small lead in the Generic Congressional Vote (Democrats +2)

Full results:

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/09/battlegroundpoll.html

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Response to TroyD (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:06 AM

DCBob (15,011 posts)

8. maybe not useless but extremely misleading.

A small statistically insignificant lead in national polls could result in a landslide in the EC. What is being reported by the MSM that we have a tight race is technically correct when they only take into account national polls but its totally wrong based on state by state polling.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:53 AM

DemocratSinceBirth (46,047 posts)

7. The Electoral Colllege Usually Follows The Popular Vote

And as the pop vote victory gets larger the E C victory gets exponentially larger.

Also, it's extremely unlikely a candidate could win the pop vote by say more than a point or two and lose the EC vote. It almost happened in 76 and that's a great reason to get rid of it. But that's another story.

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