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Related: About this forumUndecided Voters Are a Menace
by Michelle Cottle Sep 23, 2012 4:45 AM EDTThe other outtake from Mitts 47 percent speechhis focus on voters who havent made up their minds. Who the hell are these people? Michelle Cottle why theyre not worth catering to.
Let us, for the moment, pause in our hyperventilation over the 47 percent about whom Mitt Romney recently got caught talking smack. Yes, branding roughly half the nation as lazy, entitled parasites is impolitic. Getting caught on video doing it in a roomful of rich donors is downright sloppy. But, honestly, what politician doesnt harbor at least some bitterness toward what he regards as the opposition forces?
The bit of Romneys lecture that I found still more depressing? His acknowledgement that his true mission is to reach that wafer-thin sliver of voters still sitting on the political fence. As he told the assembled diners: What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independent, that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending on in some cases emotionwhether they like the guy or not, what he looks like.
With this internally contradictory statement (thoughtful people vote on emotion?) Romney touched upon a grim electoral truth: at this stage of the race, the vast majority of people still waffling arent so much independent or thoughtful or centrist so much as they are utterly clueless.
Ask the political scientists, pollsters, and other professional analyzers of the electorate who parse these sorts of things. They will tell youas they have told me repeatedly over the yearsthat undecideds or swing voters or whatever you want to call them tend to be low-information folks who cast their ballots based on whichever candidate gives them the last-minute warm-and-fuzzies. (Did you see that guys smile in the last debate? Sign me up!) Way back during the 2000 Bush-Gore smackdown, I dug around in the data, interviewed undecideds, and called up a passel of experts. My findings were perhaps best (and certainly most entertainingly) summed up by Michael Haselswerdt, then the head of Canisius Colleges political science department, who told me: When it comes to politics, undecided voters dont know anything. And theyre not going to pay attention long enough to learn anything.
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Undecided Voters Are a Menace (Original Post)
DonViejo
Sep 2012
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(13,218 posts)1. I believe you have correctly characterized the undecided but
rather than seeing them as a menace I see them as a statistical wobble. If they haven't decided by now then it's going to be equivalent to a coin-toss.
Welcome aboard! Stay while.
1GirlieGirl
(261 posts)2. There's no such thing as an undecided voter
It's a myth. Like the Loch Ness Monster. Or like the myth that Willard has a soul. 4 years ago I first heard the myth of the undecided voter. I don't know why people like to say they're undecided. Maybe it's for attention. But I don't believe in the myth.