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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:42 PM Jan 2016

Ask that Hillary Clinton release transcripts of her "speeches" to Goldman Sachs, et. al.

According to public disclosures, by giving just 12 speeches to Wall Street banks, private equity firms, and other financial corporations, Clinton made $2,935,000 from 2013 to 2015:

Ameriprise - $225,000
Apollo Mgmt. Holdings - $225,000
Bank of America - $225,000
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce - $150,000
Deutsche Bank - $485,000
Fidelity Investments - $225,000
Gold Tree Asset Management - $275,000
Goldman Sachs - $675,000
Morgan Stanley - $225,000
UBS - $225,000

So these "speeches" that Hillary gave to Wall St. firms were closed to the public and to the media. Which begs the question: what exactly is Hillary telling these huge banks that is so "valuable" to them? Why can't voters know what Hillary is telling the big banks?

Hillary claims she told them to "Cut it out!". Is that what she REALLY said to them in her speeches? If so, why are the transcripts secret, and why are the banks greasing Hillary's palms with millions of dollars to tell them that?

I think the voting public has a right to know what the fuck Hillary is saying to these "too big to fail, to big to jail" banks.

Don't you?



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Ask that Hillary Clinton release transcripts of her "speeches" to Goldman Sachs, et. al. (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 OP
This is a great idea. Broward Jan 2016 #1
It really is wendylaroux Jan 2016 #2
You would trust what was released to be the actual speech given? Skwmom Jan 2016 #3
Might not, but she'd then be on record with them... cascadiance Jan 2016 #5
Good point. But if she lies about that too, it could easily get exposed 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #8
I'm not so sure about that. Look how LONG she's drug out the email stuff. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #40
Anyone know how to get a petition going/ Jarqui Jan 2016 #4
I was wondering about that too. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #17
FOIA maybe Pharaoh Jan 2016 #29
Nope. Agschmid Jan 2016 #56
Start a Facebook group or something? Is there such a thing? I don't know. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #31
I questioned that very thing here on Monday. SamKnause Jan 2016 #6
I may have stolen this from you. I don't recall if it was you or not 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #9
You didn't steal anything. SamKnause Jan 2016 #16
Also been posting this on FB and msg to Bernie's campaign. Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #41
Great. Thanks !!! SamKnause Jan 2016 #46
I hope you 2 saw todays Intercept (Lee Fang) popped our question to Hillary re Transcripts. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #126
Thanks so much for the update. SamKnause Jan 2016 #128
I hope you 2 saw todays Intercept (Lee Fang) popped our question to Hillary re Transcripts. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #127
I did! "Haha" isn"t an adequate answer. We must ask again. Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #130
It's going to be interesting how this plays out over next few weeks 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #131
#3 is quite feasible Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #132
Now that would be revealing. I bet she will invoke some employer-employee confidentiality bullshit. thereismore Jan 2016 #7
At the very least, I think it would rock Hills back on her heals, and give voters something 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #11
True. They should wonder about them. Or at least know the speeches and payments occurred. think Jan 2016 #13
But She's Running For The Highest Office In The Land..... global1 Jan 2016 #14
I may have forgotten the sarcasm smilie. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #15
We don't have $300,000 to pay Kall Jan 2016 #48
I am sure all of those Businesses wrote off the payments to Hillary as a expense awake Jan 2016 #10
Buying politicians is a common business expense today. ... spin Jan 2016 #20
That will never happen.... think Jan 2016 #12
Voters' curious minds want to know, what is Hillary hiding? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #19
Bad answer on my part. Meant that her releasing any transcript from those speeches think Jan 2016 #23
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for clarifying. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #24
I have no doubt that hard copies plus video is available at the Big Banks. bvar22 Jan 2016 #80
my guess is that copy had a prompt visit restorefreedom Jan 2016 #18
LOL - Ahh .. yes Hillary's "cloth" is getting quite a work-out. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #21
must be threadbare by now! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #22
A very good idea! Duval Jan 2016 #26
The only way anyone not a bankster will ever get an inkling bvf Jan 2016 #27
Wouldn't that be something? Like bush saying, "I call you my base." morningfog Jan 2016 #28
I wonder if they're as good as the Nixon tapes or the Romeny video Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #30
If they demand Bernie's medical records, why not? TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #32
Brilliant! avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #33
Make sure they include all the 'wink wink' notations in the borders tomm2thumbs Jan 2016 #34
K&R. Full disclosure. We want to know where she really stands on the JDPriestly Jan 2016 #35
No, no! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #36
Too bad there's not anyone out there who might've recorded one of those speeches on their cell raindaddy Jan 2016 #37
And her birth certificate too!!!11!! JTFrog Jan 2016 #38
Big k&r Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #39
Kicked and recommended for exposing $cars. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #42
she's a private citizen when she made those speeches dlwickham Jan 2016 #43
They are funding her campaign. Her husband has perfected quid pro quo politics. TryLogic Jan 2016 #47
Well, it's not like these 'speeches' were to the Audubon Society or the Girl Scouts 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #50
you're allowed to disagree dlwickham Jan 2016 #54
Do you feel that way about Trump's business dealings? noamnety Jan 2016 #68
I wonder if those speeches would sound simikar to Rmoney's 47% nc4bo Jan 2016 #44
Go ahead and demand it. murielm99 Jan 2016 #45
those little Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #92
Then they can 'loan' the speeches to Cruz. keithbvadu2 Jan 2016 #49
those fee amounts are nauseating shireen Jan 2016 #51
Have to agree with you. Is there any other Democrat whose done anything close to this? harun Jan 2016 #67
K&R grasswire Jan 2016 #52
Could not help but notice the Cubs logo Mr. murielm99 FairWinds Jan 2016 #53
Bye, obnoxious one. murielm99 Jan 2016 #117
Tweeted, thanks! pinebox Jan 2016 #55
Thank you for tweeting. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #61
K&R Really great idea. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #57
Petition anywhere? glinda Jan 2016 #58
I wish. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #59
To her. glinda Jan 2016 #63
Do you know how to start a petition? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #64
Here...someone do this.... glinda Jan 2016 #75
Looks like a DUer already started a MoveOn.org petition, just now... 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #78
Shades of Dick Chenry's Energy Task Force merkins Jan 2016 #60
What did she promise them and when did she promise it? nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #62
K & R, perhaps the Sanders campaign will run with this idea? dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #65
I hope Team Bernie at least considers this, as the race tightens 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #69
Any thinking person should be wondering about this. Duppers Jan 2016 #66
I just started a MoveOn petiton on this. Hoppy Jan 2016 #70
Whoa! Really? Can you post a link under this OP when you get one?? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #76
link??? glinda Jan 2016 #120
Absolutely right! tinkerbelle Jan 2016 #71
would be interesting to read Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #72
Bernie can use this SHRED Jan 2016 #73
And that's it ladies and gentlemen-Sold! To the highest bidder. jalan48 Jan 2016 #74
O.....M.....G CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #77
corporate interest bearing Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #93
do you hate trump more than Hillary? MariaThinks Jan 2016 #79
What would you guys do if she released her birth cert....er, I mean transcripts... kjones Jan 2016 #81
Apples & Oranges much? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #83
Nah, just 'potayto' & 'potahto' kjones Jan 2016 #95
Like his medical records? n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #96
Well, for Bernie, it's hard enough to get simple policy details out of him... kjones Jan 2016 #106
Not agist much? groan. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #109
Personally, on the first on the list of disclosures I'd like to see from candidates is... kjones Jan 2016 #111
Sounds good. n/t Orsino Jan 2016 #82
Here's a more comprehensive list, some with video. I imagine they were all pretty much the same. kennetha Jan 2016 #84
I see NONE of Hillary's speeches to the Banksters listed in the OP. None. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #85
Really? Can't you read? kennetha Jan 2016 #86
They are LISTED yes. I see NO videos/transcripts of what she's been telling the Banksters. NONE. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #87
No there aren't videos of all of them. kennetha Jan 2016 #88
Again. NO videos/transcripts of what she's been telling the Banksters. NONE. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #89
Well, actually... kennetha Jan 2016 #90
Since her speeches are so innocuous, I'm sure she will happily release the transcripts then. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #91
Maybe she told them about her policies kennetha Jan 2016 #94
Give me a progressive who won't abandon 29 million uninsured Americans, to just tinker with ACA 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #97
You sound like one of those infantile Republican Purists ... kennetha Jan 2016 #99
Bernie is doing pretty well with his "losing strategy". But maybe you have a point. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #103
Hmm kennetha Jan 2016 #105
I'm going with 170 economists over ONE Mr. Krugman 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #107
Thanks for these! Lucinda Jan 2016 #122
In addition to demands for your animals to graze on the land for free? Politicub Jan 2016 #98
What word would you use? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #101
It does sound better. Demand is confrontational Politicub Jan 2016 #102
Well, it's not like there isn't any evidence. There are nearly 3 million evidences. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #104
That is pretty close to the edge... even for the h group. artislife Feb 2016 #133
cut it out SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #100
I think just about any business person, guitar maker who uses protected woods, environmentalist, Hoyt Jan 2016 #108
I'd be interested to see a list of which Liberals you are referring to 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #110
Bernie's Man Robert Reich... kennetha Jan 2016 #112
Well, ok. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #113
Just about any celebrity, former Prez or high cabinet official, actors, musicians, Cornell West, Hoyt Jan 2016 #114
But NOT at $225,000 per speech. <-- over the top. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #115
Heck if you can get that much for your foundation by standing up there and saying you are going Hoyt Jan 2016 #116
We're not talking about medical conventions, or Jimmy Carter or Al Gore 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #118
Wall Street is just like a union, etc., in that they will pay for insight into future Hoyt Jan 2016 #119
Pretzel trauma, call a medic! whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #125
I'd like to know exactly what she was promising them, in her speeches, for millions of dollars. (nt) w4rma Jan 2016 #121
She could have read pages 13-39 of the telephone directory, for all it matters. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2016 #123
Did you catch this, came out today from The Intercept 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #124
Ken Starr phone home. . . . ucrdem Jan 2016 #129
Look what you started. ROFL Live and Learn Feb 2016 #134
You know, it would be fun to believe that my one little OP on DU would be that 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #135
I think it was. I spread it to Facebook right after you said it. Kudos!! Live and Learn Feb 2016 #136
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
5. Might not, but she'd then be on record with them...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jan 2016

... and if she's found to have distorted them, like perhaps she may have distorted the security level of emails on her private server, then that will haunt her later.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
8. Good point. But if she lies about that too, it could easily get exposed
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

if some rogue 'anonymous' bank exec. decides to spill the beans, who was at one of the speeches.

Response to Skwmom (Reply #3)

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. I was wondering about that too.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

Who would the petition be TO? Hillary's Campaign? The DNC? To the Banks?

I was trying to visualize who it would be addressed to, and was kind of coming up blank.

But I'm definitely open to ideas. However, I don't know how to get a petition jump started personally,
but i think maybe MoveOn.org might be interested, or one of the other progressive groups that has
endorsed Bernie.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
6. I questioned that very thing here on Monday.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jan 2016

I asked if there were transcripts or videos of her speeches available.

I think the voters definitely have the right to know what she is selling

in those speeches.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
9. I may have stolen this from you. I don't recall if it was you or not
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

but I did pick this up 1-2 days ago from a prior DU discussion.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
16. You didn't steal anything.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

I was posting about it on Monday.

Feel free to keep bringing it up here and everywhere else.

I think we have the right to know what she is being paid to say.

If she is representing the banks and Wall Street this should be an

automatic disqualification.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
41. Also been posting this on FB and msg to Bernie's campaign.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jan 2016

After the fallout from Mitt's 47% remark, people want and deserve to know.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
126. I hope you 2 saw todays Intercept (Lee Fang) popped our question to Hillary re Transcripts.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

Her answer was "Ha-Ha-Ha" (abruptly pivots left to next person in crowd) "oh hello, how are you?"
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/23/clinton-goldman-sachs-laugh/

Then murmur posted an OP about it this morning
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1051564

I'm loving how our posts reverberated and percolated up right into the lap of The Intercept.
I'm also loving how Bernistas are supporting each other toward our common goal, with insights,
reflections and good humor.

PS - I'm also sending this message to Voice For Peace, who was our co-consirator.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
127. I hope you 2 saw todays Intercept (Lee Fang) popped our question to Hillary re Transcripts.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

Her answer was "Ha-Ha-Ha" (abruptly pivots left to next person in crowd) "oh hello, how are you?"
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/23/clinton-goldman-sachs-laugh/

Then murmur posted an OP about it this morning
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1051564

I'm loving how our posts reverberated and percolated up right into the lap of The Intercept.
I'm also loving how Bernistas are support each other toward our common goal, with insights,
reflections and good humor.

PS - I'm also sending this message to SamKnause, who was our co-consirator.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
130. I did! "Haha" isn"t an adequate answer. We must ask again.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jan 2016

And agsin. Until everybody is wodering why not?
Thanks!

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
131. It's going to be interesting how this plays out over next few weeks
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)

1) will "the question" somehow insinuate it's way into Mondays CNN Town Hall?
Sadly, rather doubtful, given who's running the show that night.

2) Hillary people argue that the speeches were innocuous and un-noteworthy ..
something about being "only to clients", and speeches "only about world affairs
to enlighten emerging entrepreneurs". and who knows? Maybe they are. But
I kind of doubt it.

3) The more widely "the question" seeps onto the airwaves, there's always a
possibility of some random waiter or janitor having clandestine footage of one
of these closed-door/no-press events; like happened to Romney.

4) If Hillary phonies-up fake transcripts, while claiming to be ponying-up the
real deal, then #3 happens, that would spell the end of her campaign.

Well, I can dream, can't I?

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
7. Now that would be revealing. I bet she will invoke some employer-employee confidentiality bullshit.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jan 2016

After all, she works for them and the speeches were not for us plebeians.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. At the very least, I think it would rock Hills back on her heals, and give voters something
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

to wonder about. "hmmm .. yah what was in those speeches?"

global1

(25,241 posts)
14. But She's Running For The Highest Office In The Land.....
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

don't us plebeians that she is asking to vote for her - have the right to know?

Kall

(615 posts)
48. We don't have $300,000 to pay
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

We're not worthy of the insights into the field of high finance Hillary Clinton gave the people in high finance.

awake

(3,226 posts)
10. I am sure all of those Businesses wrote off the payments to Hillary as a expense
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

there for getting the taxpayers to help foot some of the cost by reducing the taxes that the Business pay and meaning the rest of us pick up the difference. just another example of "crony capitalism" or "welfare for the rich".

spin

(17,493 posts)
20. Buying politicians is a common business expense today. ...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jan 2016

Even Donald Trump admits he played that game.

Donald Trump's Surprisingly Honest Lessons About Big Money in Politics
By JILL ORNIT and ZRYAN STRUYK
Aug 11, 2015, 3:09 PM ET


It’s no secret that Donald Trump is rich. And it's no surprise that money influences politics.

But few political candidates -- let alone presidential contenders -- speak about it with as much candor and openness as Donald Trump.

Over the course of his campaign so far, Trump has unashamedly made a string of under-the-radar comments about using political donations to call in favors with politicians while they are in office.

“I will tell you that our system is broken,” Trump said on stage in Thursday's GOP candidates' debate. “I gave to many people before this -- before two months ago I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what, when I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me. That's a broken system.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-surprisingly-honest-lessons-big-money-politics/story?id=32993736


The system is broken. Bernie realizes it.





 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
19. Voters' curious minds want to know, what is Hillary hiding?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jan 2016

Of course Hillary will stonewall and ignore any such request, but I couldn't help visualizing
what that might look like.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
23. Bad answer on my part. Meant that her releasing any transcript from those speeches
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

Will never happen.

Demanding that she does release transcripts might actually stir voters to think about it and actually even know these events occurred. I'm sure many good people are unaware these speeches for mega bucks even took place.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
24. My thoughts exactly. Thanks for clarifying.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not sure Bernie himself should raise this, or he'll be accused again of "breaking his word"; but
asking to see a copy of the speeches would, certainly get people thinking and wondering. and would
raise awareness that these "speeches" even took place.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
80. I have no doubt that hard copies plus video is available at the Big Banks.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jan 2016

All we need is one Snowden or a Deep Throat whose patriotism exceeds loyalty to a cut throat corporation and RICH bosses. We could establish a bounty for the first Bank Employee who suddenly feels a conscience....for several $MILLION Dollars, and hands this stuff over.
There MUST be a "disgruntled" employee somewhere.



restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
18. my guess is that copy had a prompt visit
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

to a shredder. there will be no transcripts.

then again, maybe a cloth wiped them off hillary's hard drive...

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
27. The only way anyone not a bankster will ever get an inkling
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

of this will be if someone with a conscience and a videocam does what's required.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
28. Wouldn't that be something? Like bush saying, "I call you my base."
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jan 2016

And Romney's 47%.

Maybe some lowly service worker secretly recorded some speech and will provide a public service by releasing it.

One thing is for sure, she did not talk to them about income inequality, criminal justice or women's rights.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
30. I wonder if they're as good as the Nixon tapes or the Romeny video
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jan 2016

Perhaps they'll show her saying "cut it out" and joining the attendees in maniacal laughter.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
33. Brilliant!
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

That would certainly tell voters whose side Hillary is on. (And I don't think it is on our side.)




tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
34. Make sure they include all the 'wink wink' notations in the borders
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jan 2016

Like when saying 'Cut it out!' (wink, wink)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
35. K&R. Full disclosure. We want to know where she really stands on the
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jan 2016

economy and Wall Street.

Or did she just talk about the importance of giving to charity???

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
37. Too bad there's not anyone out there who might've recorded one of those speeches on their cell
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jan 2016

Remeber Romney's video?

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
39. Big k&r
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jan 2016

If the Sanders campaign would make this request, on bejalf of primary voters who DESERVE to know before we vote, the response alone would be helpful.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
43. she's a private citizen when she made those speeches
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jan 2016

she wasn't running for anything

thus, it's none of anyone's business what she said in those speeches except for the people who paid to hear her

keep on with that faux outrage at her making money

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
47. They are funding her campaign. Her husband has perfected quid pro quo politics.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

It is about corruption.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
50. Well, it's not like these 'speeches' were to the Audubon Society or the Girl Scouts
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jan 2016

These were speeches to the same pack of greed-heads who crashed our economy, got bailed out, and
have become even bigger than they were in 2007/8 <-- they were 'too big to fail' then, now it's worse.

And now this 'private citizen' is running for the President of the United States of America, saying she's
"going to reign-in Wall St." You don't think voters have a right to know what Hillary said to these banks,
Banks & Financiers who made her an instant multimillionaire for a few speeches?

And you think it's "none of their (voters) business"? I disagree.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
68. Do you feel that way about Trump's business dealings?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

Or do you think they might be relevant to deciding what kind of president he might be?

shireen

(8,333 posts)
51. those fee amounts are nauseating
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

How many of us make that much money in a year? Or two years? Or a decade? She gets these huge chunks of cash for spending a couple of hours with outrageously wealthy sociopaths who don't appreciate the value of a single dollar.

The astronomical disparity in wealth within our society is sickening. That fee list really drives it home.



 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
53. Could not help but notice the Cubs logo Mr. murielm99
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jan 2016

Rahm, is that you ?

Gotta be, what with that obnoxious name calling and all . .

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
61. Thank you for tweeting.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not on twitter, so that's really cool that you put it out there on Twitterverse.

I'm a hopeless Luddite, lucky to navigate my MacBook Pro.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
64. Do you know how to start a petition?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:59 AM
Jan 2016

I've never done that before. Wouldn't know where to start.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
78. Looks like a DUer already started a MoveOn.org petition, just now...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1046856

But no link to it yet. I did request for the link to be posted under this OP, so i don't miss it.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
65. K & R, perhaps the Sanders campaign will run with this idea?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:01 AM
Jan 2016

Anyone connected to them that can make this suggestion?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
69. I hope Team Bernie at least considers this, as the race tightens
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

The who and when part is important. Timing is everything.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
76. Whoa! Really? Can you post a link under this OP when you get one??
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jan 2016

so I don't miss it, I want to sign.

tinkerbelle

(38 posts)
71. Absolutely right!
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

We should be able to see what she's been telling them. Seems completely relevant to the election.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
77. O.....M.....G
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

I had no idea that she made *that much* money from speaking fees!

Speaking fees?

Wow, that is...nutty.

I'm so done with her. Don't care how she justifies this. I don't even want to hear her explain it.

Who would believe the transcript if she did release it? She's a liar and she's in Tasmanian devil mode in her campaign.

Really, who cares.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
93. corporate interest bearing
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

Laundering. Simple as that. Same thing with superpac money being funneled all to the media outlets back into the very hands that funded the superpacs in the first place fleecing some unknowing nitwits (that donate to them) along the way.

all that absurd excess they pay for her speeches will pay back multi-fold if she would be anointed .

kjones

(1,053 posts)
95. Nah, just 'potayto' & 'potahto'
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

both are manufactured outrage.
If it was a game you wanted to play though, I'm sure we could
scrounge up tons of things to ask Bernie to release and be
fake pissed about.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
106. Well, for Bernie, it's hard enough to get simple policy details out of him...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jan 2016

Shouldn't all candidates release health information?

Boy, I remember how ferociously people around here
barked for McCain to release his medical information.
It was an applause line here.
And sure, the skin cancer was a concern, but man,
the calls for his psychiatric record, they were
downright vicious.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
109. Not agist much? groan.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

Actually I think Bernie is releasing some kind of letter attesting to his good health.
and I have no problem with that actually. but it was a not-so-subtle attack on his
age, which was unseemly.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
111. Personally, on the first on the list of disclosures I'd like to see from candidates is...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jan 2016

the name of Trump's hairpiece manufacture.

Ugly as hell, but one has to admire the construction
and the resiliency with which it holds its own against
gravity. That level of protection and use of space
age materials is exactly what our future martian
astronauts should be outfitted in.




I think a letter is just fine, btw, though I was
never part of the call for it.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
85. I see NONE of Hillary's speeches to the Banksters listed in the OP. None.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

Here's some reading for you though, written by a former Wall St. exec. who pretty much
tells it like it is, about the nature of Hillary's "speeches' so Wall St.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r-talbott/why-wall-street-gives-mil_b_9049992.html

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
86. Really? Can't you read?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016
Oct. 29, 2013: Builders and Innovators Summit at Goldman Sachs ($200,000)
Oct. 27, 2013: Beth El Synagogue National Speaker Series in St. Louis Park
Oct. 25, 2013: Colgate University in Colgate, NY
Oct. 24, 2013: AIMS Alternative Investment Conference at Goldman Sachs ($200,000)
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
87. They are LISTED yes. I see NO videos/transcripts of what she's been telling the Banksters. NONE.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jan 2016

which is the whole point of the OP to which you are replying.

Simply saying "they are all pretty much the same" as what she says at a university speech
is either naive or disingenuous.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
88. No there aren't videos of all of them.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jan 2016

But there are videos of various of them. I doubt that the ones for which there aren't videos are radically different from the one's for which there are videos.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
89. Again. NO videos/transcripts of what she's been telling the Banksters. NONE.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

Which is the whole point of the OP to which you are replying.

Simply saying "they are all pretty much the same" as what she says at some random
university speech is either naive or disingenuous.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
90. Well, actually...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jan 2016

I think you're the one being naive or disingenuous.

For one thing, the Goldman Sachs events, for example, were annual conferences for Goldman Sachs CLIENTS -- not employees, not executives, not investors. But probably you hate them all and think they all are evil

The particular clients at these two events were financial advisors in the one case and entrepreneurs and innovators in the other case. The one conference is devoted to "the latest strategies and products available to financial advisers" the other conference is devoted to "discussing entrepreneurship and how to help innovators expand and grow their businesses."

But I suppose you're opposed to politicians who are willing to talk to entrepreneurs and innovators or to people who offer others financial advice for a living. I suppose you think they only serve "the billionaire class" against which your man loves to rail.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
94. Maybe she told them about her policies
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jan 2016

which, though less bombastic and simple minded than one-note Bernie's half-baked policies are, are much more thought out, much more far reaching, despite their lack of simplistic bombast, and have a much greater chance of being enacted, and have a much greater chance of being effective if enacted:


Her financial regulation plan is considerably more comprehensive than Sanders's and addresses issues — like shadow banking — that are outside the scope of Sanders's proposals. That became Clinton's opportunity to argue that her plan is actually tougher than his — that he would, in effect, let shadow banks off the hook.


http://www.vox.com/2016/1/7/10725422/clinton-sanders-shadow-bank

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/democrats-republicans-and-wall-street-tycoons.html?_r=0

Give me a pragmatic progressive who knows how to move the ball toward the ultimate goal, play-by-play, than a simple-minded "revolutionary" with his head in the clouds of ideal non-reality any day.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
97. Give me a progressive who won't abandon 29 million uninsured Americans, to just tinker with ACA
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jan 2016

Give me a progressive who stands tall with low-wage workers for a $15 an hour min wage.

Give me a progressive who dares to dream big and go for it, over a "No We Can't" faux-progressive
who changes her positions with every pantsuit, who became a multi-millionaire from speaking fees
to the Banksters.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
99. You sound like one of those infantile Republican Purists ...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jan 2016

who threaten to shut down the government if they don't get their way. You'd rather go down clinging to simplistic solutions that have no anchor in concrete reality, then actually accomplish something concrete and effective. I know it feels good, in the short term, to trumpet your moral and political superiority over more pragmatically minded people. But it's just a losing strategy in the end, that leaves you with nothing but disappointment and bitterness.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
103. Bernie is doing pretty well with his "losing strategy". But maybe you have a point.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe you're right. Better to be a "realist' and lick Wall St. wingtips, hunker down, just think
of me and mine, act out of fear rather than working for a future I can believe in.

Maybe you're right. Things will never really get better. The Wall St. hucksters and crooks have
already won, so I should give up and vote Hillary.

Better yet. maybe I'll just not vote at all, since I'd lose my lunch all over the voting machine.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
105. Hmm
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

You think Hilary's plan to regulate wall street is just giving in to the hucksters and crooks? That's just plain silly.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
98. In addition to demands for your animals to graze on the land for free?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

Sorry - just realized your another group with a list of "demands."

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
101. What word would you use?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jan 2016

request? how about "pretty please"?

Wait. I have it. how about "ask"?

Actually maybe you have a point. When I wrote the header, I had a twinge of hesitation
when using "demand" .. I'll edit to "ask"

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
102. It does sound better. Demand is confrontational
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

I wish I could answer your ask, because I would. I don't think there's anything to hide.

People that insinuate there is without a shred of evidence make me think of the question, "when did Sanders stop doing the NRA's bidding?" I believe the answer is 2005 for that question, by the way.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
104. Well, it's not like there isn't any evidence. There are nearly 3 million evidences.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jan 2016

When people or corporations shell-out 1/4 million dollars or more, they expect something in return for it.

And that's just the speaker fees, not even counting the Bankster's donations to her campaign.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
108. I think just about any business person, guitar maker who uses protected woods, environmentalist,
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016

union, solar panel producer, bus manufacturer, etc., wants to attract people "in the know" to their big conventions.

It's a small cost to have someone who may well be Prez come to a big event and talk about what they would see as the regulatory environment in the future -- even if it is not what the banksters want to hear, they want to know so they can prepare for it. If they can't make as much money, they at least want to limit their loses.

Lots of liberals are high dollar key note speakers.

But what the heck do I know? I'm afflicted because everything just isn't a big conspiracy to me.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
110. I'd be interested to see a list of which Liberals you are referring to
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jan 2016

that have received 1/4 million dollars for one speech. Do you have any basis
for making that claim?

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
112. Bernie's Man Robert Reich...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jan 2016

doesn't make quite as much per gig... after all, he's years and years away from being a major influence or maker or shaper of policy. But he does get paid a pretty penny for his speaking gigs.

In addition to his annual CU-Berkeley salary of $242,613, Professor Reich is also a popular speaker on the nation’s lecture circuit, and he commands a handsome speaking fee of $40,000 for a one-hour talk (including Q&A) plus first class travel for one or two people from California, hotel accommodations for up to two nights, ground transportation, meals and incidentals. That’s the quote I got today from one of Professor Reich’s speaking bureaus for his fee to give a presentation as part of a “university program” — it’s possible that he charges even more for corporate events. So we have the former labor secretary complaining about a pay gap between CEOs and average workers, when he gets almost as much in compensation for a one-hour talk as the average American worker earns working full-time for an entire year (see chart above)! If he gives only six speeches a year, his annual income approaches half-a-million dollars a year, putting him solidly in America’s “top 1%” by income – a group the “class warrior” frequently criticizes (see examples here and here). .


Many ex-government officials cash in in this way -- on the left and the right..

https://www.aei.org/publication/robert-reich-makes-36-more-than-average-ceo-and-gets-40k-for-a-one-hour-talk-vs-average-worker-pay-of-46kyear/
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
113. Well, ok.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jan 2016

But $40,000 is a whole different proposition than $225,000. Just sayin'.

And Mr. Reich's speaking fees have not catapulted him into being a multi-millionaire.

But point taken. Thanks for the info.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
114. Just about any celebrity, former Prez or high cabinet official, actors, musicians, Cornell West,
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jan 2016

Branson, John Lewis, Jane Fonda, Al Gore, Ed Asner, Harry Belafonte, Anthony Bourdain, Erin Brockovich, Jerry Brown, Morris Dees, Donna Brazile, Martha Stewart, and bunches more. Those people attract people to these conventions. Some just tell stories and look pretty. Others talk about the future and what may be coming down the road. Some are motivators.

In fact, Sanders will probably have a chance for lucrative speaker fees even if he loses.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
116. Heck if you can get that much for your foundation by standing up there and saying you are going
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jan 2016

to regulate the audience, why not. How much do you think Al Gore got back when he was really popular? Jimmy Carter gets good fees. They'd all get more if they could very likely be the next President. Jeeez, if you wanted to attract people to a big convention center, are you going to ask someone who will have no influence on your industries future. Medical convention bring in top researchers.

I really don't care how much someone makes if they do a good job, especially for our society.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
118. We're not talking about medical conventions, or Jimmy Carter or Al Gore
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

we're taking about Wall St..

I still haven't seen any evidence that ANY other 'guest speaker' .. even ex-presidents like Carter,
are pulling down a 1/4 Million dollars per speech.

I'm still waiting to see any evidence of that.

And if her speeches are telling the Banksters to 'cut it out', then why won't she come clean with
transcripts?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
119. Wall Street is just like a union, etc., in that they will pay for insight into future
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

regulatory action that impacts their industry.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
121. I'd like to know exactly what she was promising them, in her speeches, for millions of dollars. (nt)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:42 AM
Jan 2016

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
123. She could have read pages 13-39 of the telephone directory, for all it matters.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:28 AM
Jan 2016

It's not about any blazing insights any politician might have or any wisdom they might impart. It's about shoveling money to a candidate without LOOKING like you're shoveling money to a candidate.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
135. You know, it would be fun to believe that my one little OP on DU would be that
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:36 AM
Feb 2016

butterfly wing beating in China, that cascades and snowballs into the
question of the day.. people everywhere thinking "Gee, I wonder what's
in those transcripts."

But you know, I really suspect it was more of a collaboration than that;
because I actually stole the idea from SamKnause (with permission),
and was told by others that they thought they'd seen some posts on
Facebook about transcripts too, so who knows?

I'm just happy most everyone is wondering about it now ...

Thanks for your post .. what a wild fucking ride this is becoming, huh.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
136. I think it was. I spread it to Facebook right after you said it. Kudos!!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:38 AM
Feb 2016

Never imagined it would spread like this but it seems to have.

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