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Tue May 17, 2011, 04:11 PM

Strange place for this group......

Under Religion & Spirituality (not at all the logical place for it).

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Reply Strange place for this group...... (Original post)
frebrd May 2011 OP
truebrit71 May 2011 #1
MineralMan May 2011 #2
muriel_volestrangler May 2011 #7
ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #23
Skinner May 2011 #3
Angry Dragon May 2011 #6
frebrd May 2011 #8
lazarus May 2011 #11
MrModerate Dec 2011 #19
mr blur Dec 2011 #20
drm604 Dec 2011 #28
Arugula Latte May 2011 #4
ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #24
Arugula Latte Dec 2011 #34
WolverineDG May 2011 #5
Warpy May 2011 #9
frebrd May 2011 #10
Deep13 May 2011 #12
lazarus May 2011 #13
rexcat Dec 2011 #14
ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #25
WhollyHeretic Dec 2011 #15
laconicsax Dec 2011 #16
uriel1972 Dec 2011 #17
EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2011 #18
NMMNG Dec 2011 #21
PhoenixAbove Dec 2011 #22
frogmarch Dec 2011 #26
drm604 Dec 2011 #29
greyl Dec 2011 #27
Nevernose Dec 2011 #30
drm604 Dec 2011 #31
EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2011 #32
dimbear Dec 2011 #33
Kalidurga Dec 2011 #35

Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2011, 04:28 PM

1. Does seem a little bizarre...

..as it is about a LACK of religion and spirituality...Oh well..

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2011, 04:45 PM

2. Oh, I dunno...

A negative response to a thing still relates to that thing. I can't figure where else the atheism group would go, to tell the truth.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Thu May 19, 2011, 03:21 PM

7. You sound almost ... agnostic ... about it

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 8, 2011, 05:45 PM

23. watch it, Muriel.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2011, 11:53 PM

3. If the denizens of this group would prefer a different category, just tell me where to put it. (nt)

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Response to Skinner (Reply #3)

Thu May 19, 2011, 02:33 PM

6. It fits here

I think this is as good as any place for this group ................

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Response to Skinner (Reply #3)

Thu May 19, 2011, 04:19 PM

8. How about "Related Groups in other Categories"?

the same way the Skepticism Group is listed.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #3)

Fri May 20, 2011, 05:35 PM

11. Change the category back, and it would fix things

"Science and Skepticism" was changed to "Science and Technology", even though there aren't any tech-specific groups under that heading. If Skepticism were added back into the category listing, this group would fit there just fine.

It doesn't bother me to leave it here, but I imagine our religious friends may not like it much, either. And, really, we're not religious, so being in the Religion category is sorta weird.

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Response to lazarus (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 7, 2011, 02:48 AM

19. Agreed

Although, perhaps the "Technology" label might begin to spawn actual Technology posts . . .

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Response to lazarus (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 7, 2011, 10:04 AM

20. I agree. It is weird

and a little uncomfortable.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 10, 2011, 11:43 AM

28. In the old DU it was under Science & Skepticism.

What's wrong with leaving it there?

On Edit: Oh, I see that's gone. Why was it removed? Maybe it should have been left. I think this and "Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience" both belong under "Science & Skepticism", or maybe a new category called something like "Skepticism" or maybe "Critical thinking" or some such.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2011, 02:21 AM

4. Skinner is God.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 8, 2011, 05:46 PM

24. there is no god. Ergo, there is no Skinner.

I think, therefore . . . .

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:32 PM

34. Weird ... I posted that comment in May



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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2011, 08:21 AM

5. Like Skinner said

let him know where you want it to be. This was originally somewhere else (like Science or something) but someone complained about that too.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2011, 07:33 PM

9. I feel a little betrayed

since this should have been kept as part of Science & Skepticism since the Skeptics' group is still there.

In fact, this whole thing makes me feel like they moved my food dish.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #9)

Fri May 20, 2011, 04:49 PM

10. +1!

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2011, 08:18 PM

12. So what do I have to do to help keep this forum?

And skeptics too?

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #12)

Mon May 23, 2011, 08:32 PM

13. just subscribe and post

I think we're safe, but just in case, we need as many people as possible to subscribe.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2011, 03:50 PM

14. And we are just below astrology!

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Response to rexcat (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 8, 2011, 05:47 PM

25. alphabetically, at least.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2011, 04:13 PM

15. I think the old group was under a similar category once upon a time.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2011, 05:25 PM

16. Where else do you put our granfalloon?

 

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2011, 08:38 PM

17. Heh we move one step closer to our enemies

Unknowing the gambol in the fields while we sharpen our knives. On a serious note I'm a little confused by putting us with religion but, I have no great objections except that others (newbies) might not know where to find us now.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2011, 08:47 PM

18. I'm not sure there's a better place

It seems weird, but atheism/agnosticism is at least tangentially related to religion.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2011, 11:00 PM

21. Naw

Atheism is a religion. We've been told so by religious people.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Thu Dec 8, 2011, 09:39 AM

22. I don't know about agnostics...

but atheism is not a religion. It's not. When I think of all the time I've spent trying to explain this simple concept to people (some family members included) this just sticks in my craw.

1) Absent belief in god
2) Absent belief in religion
3) Absent belief in after-life
4) Absent belief in souls

So explain to me again how I'm religious again? And again. And again.
Do you teach creationism in a science class? No.
Would the catholic church teach atheism? Not bloody likely.

I like the science and skepticism idea.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Fri Dec 9, 2011, 05:06 PM

26. It doesn't feel right to have it under R&S

but it might be easier for newcomers to find.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 10, 2011, 12:13 PM

29. That's actually a pretty good argument.

I lean towards being against this categorization, but the idea of putting it where people would look for it has some merit.

The whole point of categorizing is to make things easier to find, so maybe it does make sense to put it here.

On the other hand, it does play into the misconception that atheism is a religion; sort of like putting a "Bald" group under a "Hair Colors" category.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2011, 08:15 AM

27. It could fit in Activism, I think. (almost in Arts & Humanities)

But I'd guess if people were presented with a list of the Main Topics here and had to infer which one held Atheists & Agnostics, most would choose door number "Religion & Spirituality."

I'm not inclined to move it, personally.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2011, 05:18 PM

30. It's probably the right place for it.

If there were a forum for those who believed in Santa and one specifically for those who do not believe in Santa (the a-Santas and ag-Santas group), it would probably make sense to put them both in a similar folder.

And all the groups -- including the ones that believe in various Santas -- need to be easily located for all DU members.

And for the record, I have way more reason to believe in Santa than I do in Jesus. He's got way more than one book about him, I first learned about him at a similar age, I know exactly what it's like to feel Santa's love (or displeasure) in my heart, and most importantly Santa has actually given me things. Jesus never brought me a Death Star playset.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 07:59 PM

31. Why are some of the messages in this thread dated May 2011??

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Response to drm604 (Reply #31)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 08:00 PM

32. The come from one of the open beta tests

When they launched DU3 yesterday, they kept the old posts available, so you see some of the old stuff that was created during the testing period.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 08:04 PM

33. Well, to turn your computer off you click start. In the long run, it's not a dealbreaker.

It makes sense to put up temperance signs near a bar, too.

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Response to frebrd (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:35 PM

35. I was just thinking it was kinda weird...

glad I am not the only one. Perhaps you could have a Science and Reason section or a Philosophy Section or something like that.

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