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Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:51 PM

 

Am I being unfair?

I'm currently engaged in a very serious debate in Religion on the subject of Quantum Faith. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/121820549#post71)

So, am I being unfair?

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Reply Am I being unfair? (Original post)
laconicsax Apr 2012 OP
darkstar3 Apr 2012 #1
mr blur Apr 2012 #2
trotsky Apr 2012 #3
ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #4
laconicsax Apr 2012 #6
ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #7
Rob H. Apr 2012 #5
cleanhippie Apr 2012 #8
trotsky Apr 2012 #9
onager Apr 2012 #10

Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:21 PM

1. Nope.

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:19 PM

2. Don't think so, but the Waffle is strong in that one. nt

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:41 PM

3. Sorry I can't help

Evidently this very serious debate is with someone I have on ignore, so I am missing it!

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:03 PM

4. Fair is relative, but yes, I think you were being unfair.

I suppose you're going to start repeating imperialist maxims to obfuscate from the fact that your allegiance to orthodox dogma has been uncovered.

Predicting your debate opponent's next "move" is fair, but using that prediction as an attack is not.

Your closed mind is preventing you from approaching this reality in a manner consistent with enlightened, anti-authoritarian thought.


This is a personal attack, which is unfair.

you're only making yourself appear foolish.


Subjective observations are fair, but usually only when the subjective observation adds to your argument in a non-fallacious way. So I think this is unfair.

All the word salad in the world can't help you if you insist on making imperialist bullying moves to conceal your hatred for open-mindedness. I'm trying to discuss the epiphenomenon of quantum faith and would appreciate it if you would keep your snide authoritarianism out of it. A wholistic view to the relation between religion, mind, body, and spirit can't be pigeonholed into the existing reductionist philosophies that you dogmatically adhere to.


More personal attacks, and some mind reading (underlined). Mind reading is a very unfair tactic, but it is also very common, especially between quarreling lovers. Additionally, even though I agree with your "word salad" accusation, the fair thing to say is, "I don't understand what you are trying to say," since that is more true than the metaphor.

All of this is simply based on college debates, which doesn't always work well for internet debates.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:35 PM

6. Points taken.

 

I should point out that they believe in telepathy as a proven phenomenon, so mind reading can't be unfair.

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:46 PM

7. "they believe in telepathy as a proven phenomenon, so mind reading can't be unfair"

That is really funny.

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:26 PM

5. I don't think so

but then again, I hate pomospeak, so....

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:57 AM

8. Yes, you are!

You are being unfair to ME! I started that sub-thread with tama, and I wanted to have some fun with him, but NOOOOOO, you jumped in and did a much better job than I EVER could have so now Im stuck here laughing at the whole thing. Thanks.

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:41 AM

9. LOL, OK, I logged out just to be able to survey the damage.

Brilliant. Just freaking brilliant. I love you man.

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Response to laconicsax (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 09:21 PM

10. I thought it was hilarious...er, I mean...very serious...

I kept reading and reading. Thinking at some point, the debate would suddenly cut off when a lightbulb came on. Nope. Maybe it was a quantum lightbulb.

Upthread, I read Rob H's "pomospeak" comment as "pompous." Which works too, for several of the master debaters in Religion.

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