Sun Dec 11, 2011, 07:08 PM

"To XMAS And Beyond!"

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People would be amazed that 1) many non-Christians celebrate the holiday season and 2) many Christians unknowingly implement pagan traditions into their commemoration of the baby Jesus.

This video takes a quick glance at just a few beloved Christmas traditions and some of their origins.

Some other resources:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html
http://www.atheists.org/Did_Jesus_Exist%3F
http://www.history.com/topics/christmas

Should this video go up on a religion forum? Or should we not spoil their mythologies?

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10 replies	Author	Time	Post
"To XMAS And Beyond!" (Original post)	MarkCharles	Dec 2011	OP
Festivus for the Restivus.....	jdadd	Dec 2011	#1
My only complaint is	AlbertCat	Dec 2011	#2
I don't see a problem with it going in the religion group	EvolveOrConvolve	Dec 2011	#3
Recommended!	knowledgeispwr	Dec 2011	#4
Excellent!	frogmarch	Dec 2011	#5
A must-read. Muchas gracias.	lindysalsagal	Dec 2011	#6
Damn, I was going to post that.	sakabatou	Dec 2011	#7
Says it's been taken down.	PassingFair	Dec 2011	#8
What I learned from history. The holiday season dates from centuries before Christianity.	dimbear	Dec 2011	#9
Locking. Poster is no longer with us.	darkstar3	Mar 2012	#10

Response to MarkCharles (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 07:42 PM

jdadd (1,105 posts)

1. Festivus for the Restivus.....

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Sun Dec 11, 2011, 09:44 PM

AlbertCat (10,448 posts)

2. My only complaint is

....holly is not mistletoe.

Other than that...pretty good.

Have a Saturnalia gloriosa!

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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 09:46 PM

EvolveOrConvolve (5,600 posts)

3. I don't see a problem with it going in the religion group

It's educational in nature.

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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 10:01 PM

knowledgeispwr (1,420 posts)

4. Recommended!

I watched this before I saw the post and got a kick out of it. Entertaining and educational.

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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 10:18 PM

frogmarch (7,243 posts)

5. Excellent!

Thanks for posting this. I'll send it to all my in-laws who send me religious Xmas e-cards.

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Sun Dec 11, 2011, 10:33 PM

lindysalsagal (1,782 posts)

6. A must-read. Muchas gracias.

I had read that the word translated as virgin really meant a woman who had not yet born a child, but that's pretty close to what this says.

I also remember that he was supposed to be born in june, I think.

One thing they missed was the pre-historic male consort of the queen who would sit at the throne with her for a year and then be the one sacrificed....Hence, the killing of Jesus. It was assumed that a sacrifice to the gods was required to bring about the rebirth of the sun and spring and plant re-growth.

Hey, look. We'd all get along if we'd all just admit that we're doing the best we can. Ok so they got it all wrong back then. That's no reason why we have to use religion to attack each other, now.

I love christmas with my family, but I don't believe a word of any religious book, with the exception of the gospel of Theodore Geisel.

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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2011, 11:00 PM

sakabatou (29,057 posts)

7. Damn, I was going to post that.

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Mon Dec 12, 2011, 10:08 AM

PassingFair (20,429 posts)

8. Says it's been taken down.

Can you repost?

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Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:00 PM

dimbear (5,094 posts)

9. What I learned from history. The holiday season dates from centuries before Christianity.

It was a period of extensive gift giving, songs, dancing, parades, drinking, and (oddly) cross dressing.

You can't give a name to it because the names varied from city to city. Lupercal, Saturnalia, New Years, whatever.

And already 25 centuries ago people were complaining about it.

When you hear people refer to the reason for the season, know the answer: excess.

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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:39 PM

darkstar3 (8,763 posts)

10. Locking. Poster is no longer with us.

He disrupted poorly.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12304526

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