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WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:04 AM Mar 2014

I declare some Christians to be Jackass Zealots...

Apparently the jury thinks it's okay.

On Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:57 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Agreed. I'm not religious but I know a lot of Americans are
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4628118

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Jackass atheist zealot? So now it's okay to say jackass Christian, too, right?

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Mar 8, 2014, 12:01 AM, and voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's an opinion that admits to the possibility that jackassery is ecumenical.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: well, there are jackass zealots.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024627996#post2

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kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
1. Wait, the post you seem to have a problem with said "some jackass atheist zelot ..." and
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:10 AM
Mar 2014

you are saying "all Christians to be Jackass Zealots". I think it would be correct to say 'some Christians are Jackass Zelots' Just like some Muslims are jackass zelots, some Jews are jackass zelots and some Atheists are jackass zelots.

Why did you feel the need to change the 'some' to 'all' to make a point? There is a BIG difference between the two statements.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
3. Well this OP is now WAY less 'juicy' and popcorn worthy! I hope people still read it as it
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:19 AM
Mar 2014

is interesting.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
4. True, but I wanted to be fair.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:22 AM
Mar 2014

I admit to being more than a little peevish when I saw the post and posted before thinking.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
5. And I kind of understand why you were peeved. The post in question seems to be a bit
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:28 AM
Mar 2014

backward thinking. What I got out of it was "anyone who would protest the 9/11 cross is, by that act alone, a jackass atheist zelot." I assume your thought process was the same and thus the peevishness!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. What's really interesting about that thread is it's based on a lie of omission
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 02:37 AM
Mar 2014


http://www.atheists.org/legal/current/september-11-memorial?

In 2002, the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation was established, with a $10 billion grant from the US government, to rebuild downtown Manhattan. Soon thereafter, the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation (WTCMF) was established to begin designing a permanent memorial for those that died in the 9/11 attacks.

At about that same time, various groups began lobbying the WTCMF to include the girder cross in the final design of the 9/11 Memorial & Museum. American Atheists spoke out against that suggestion, making numerous appearances to civic and governmental groups as well as on national media denouncing the suggestion as a blatant violation of the First Amendment and exclusionary to non-Christian Americans. It also offered to provide its own memorial artifact to be set next to the girder cross to honor all other Americans who died in the 9/11 attacks. American Atheists never received any response to its complaints or its offer of an additional memorial artifact.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
7. Yeah, that's not much of a shock, considering the source.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 03:25 AM
Mar 2014

Another one for the "Not fooling anyone at all." filing cabinet.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. Yeah well the 9/11 "cross" is one of those topics...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 12:44 PM
Mar 2014

that really brings out the anti-atheist in many. The hatred and bigotry go on full display.

onager

(9,356 posts)
9. I'm still hoping...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 01:30 PM
Mar 2014

...that someone will find 2 iron girders twisted into an ancient Buddhist religious symbol - the swastika.

And will then demand that be put on public display as well.

That should be a real test of the good ol' Lib'rul Xian tolerance.

Full Disclosure: I haven't been reading the "R" group much lately. But I read that whole thread dealing with the Great Iron Cross Controversy.

Conclusion: it's good to know that whenever I'm suffering a lack of smug condescension and clueless privileged arrogance, I know where I can go to fix that.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
10. Most of them are just blind to anything but their own set of rules
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 04:59 PM
Mar 2014

I don't think anyone would complain about a couple of burned, blasted and twisted beams on exhibit. However, were they to be displayed on their side instead of upright like that favorite of
Christian execution systems, there would be no problem.

I suggested in that stupid post that they read the names of the dead and count the Jews and Muslims on it. Using a stupid cross as a memorial would be an insult to those families.

Stupid Christians just don't get it, that their symbol just might be offensive to other people.

They often act like they are the only ones here.

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