Atheists & Agnostics
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Thought this would be an interesting article for everyone here.
This is written By Chris Stedman, a gay atheist.
CNN Belief Blog Link
(CNN)This year, Congress welcomed the first Buddhist senator and first Hindu elected to either chamber of Congress, and the Pew Forum noted that this gradual increase in religious diversity
mirrors trends in the country as a whole.
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There is, however, one newly elected none but she seems to think "atheist" is a dirty word.
Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Arizona, was sworn in a few days ago without a Bible, and she is the first member of Congress to openly describe her religious affiliation as none. Although 10 other members dont specify a religious affiliation up from six members in the previous Congress Sinema is the only to officially declare none.
My take, is she may think her political career would be over if she declared herself an atheist.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)And what a shame. She'd be in some very good company.
Promethean
(468 posts)Atheists tend to have come to the decision to be an Atheist because of a great deal of thought and self reflection. Not because someone in a position of leadership told them to. So hearing a politician say "I am an Atheist" does not assure you votes from the Atheist population.
On the other hand among the religious the exact opposite tends to be true. There have been many polls that asked the straight question "Would you vote for someone you knew was an Atheist" and those polls by and large got a negative responses.
BillE
(137 posts)the trends are getting more positive, still not good, but better then 10 years ago. The more positive exposure atheists get the better it will get.
cer7711
(502 posts). . . in respect to the religious beliefs and practices of others; that is to say, they do not literally believe in the creation myths, miracle stories and religious mythology promulgated as true by others.
One would hope that this recognition would contribute to greater tolerance, humility, empathy, decency and rueful good humor on the part of the schismatic religionist toward others but in reality it never seems to work out that way:
Religionist: "GASP! You're an atheist?!"
Atheist: "Certainly. So are you."
Religionist: "I most certainly am not! I believe in ________."
Atheist: "But you don't believe in ____, ____, ____, Jupiter, Zeus, Odin, Anubis, the great Earth Mother, Marduk or any other god(s) but your own, correct?"
Religionist: "Correct. Those are false gods and false religions; whereas I believe in the One True Religion."
Atheist: "Ah yes; of course. Yet you must admitfor all your professed horror at my utterance of the word 'atheist'that you yourself are a-theistic; that is to say, lacking belief in the literal existence of the gods of others, are you not?"
Religionist: "True."
Atheist: "You don't believe in the existence of 99.999999% of all the gods that ever were."
Religionist: "No. Because they never existed."
Atheist: "Quite. Well, you see, the only difference between us is that I also disbelieve in that remaining .000001%."
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)cer7711
(502 posts)Very sloppy of me. Thank you for the helpful edit! Much obliged.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)There is still a major social stigma on the word "atheist." As we can see from believers on DU, they seem to think it can only mean someone who takes a position that they "know" there are no gods. Many liberal believers are desperate to make "atheist" (or better, "fundie atheist" be the polar opposite of "fundie <insert religion here>" so they can triangulate themselves right in the sensible middle.
BillE
(137 posts)to their belief. Our unbelief represents their doubts, so they need to separate us, redefine us that we are no different then them, or even better, to quiet us down, make us invisible, so we're not constantly reminding them of their doubt. Of course this is just speculation.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)But speculation that certainly explains a lot of observed facts, history, and behavior extremely well.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)But we cannot determine what her beliefs or lack of beliefs just because she lists "none" under religious affiliation. We are buying into the fundie claims that she is an atheist just because she is not listing a religion. She may be an atheist, she may be agnostic, or she may believe in god but does not affiliate herself with any organized religion. There are a lot of reasons for stating "none". We should not be judging her on this.