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frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:17 AM Nov 2012

College being sued by evangelist

South Dakota School of Mines & Technology (SDSMT) in Rapid City is my kids’ alma mater They were amused when they read this article. So was I.

(S.D.)-Evangelist Sues School Of Mines Over Freedom Of Speech

RAPID CITY, S.D. (AP) - A Christian evangelist in the Rapid City area is suing the South Dakota School of Mines and Technology, saying the school infringed on his right to free speech by not allowing him to preach in open areas around campus.

The Tennessee-based Center for Religious Expression filed the federal lawsuit on Mark Gavin's behalf. It says the school considered his preaching to be commercial speech rather than religious speech and told him he must pay $50 for an area inside the student union. Gavin wants to preach outside of the center.

Gavin declined comment to local media. A statement from the School of Mines said school policy is not to comment on pending litigation.

(Copyright 2012 The Associated Press)


Here's a link to a longer article. (Awww, poor oppressed Christians. )

http://www.onenewsnow.com/legal-courts/2012/11/14/evangelist-sues-for-free-speech-in-campus-evangelism
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College being sued by evangelist (Original Post) frogmarch Nov 2012 OP
I Like The 'Commercial Speech' Angle, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #1
So do I. :-) frogmarch Nov 2012 #2
Not even there, since that's where students go to decompress Warpy Nov 2012 #3
I see your point, and frogmarch Nov 2012 #4
Yep. I've been in that Union progressoid Nov 2012 #10
they make flim flam men look saintly... WCGreen Nov 2012 #5
Wonder if the mining engineers didn't think his creationism was useful locating ore bodies. dimbear Nov 2012 #6
It's the school's property, no? AlbertCat Nov 2012 #7
Idiot MisterScruffles Nov 2012 #8
Oh, sure he will! Not. frogmarch Nov 2012 #9

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
1. I Like The 'Commercial Speech' Angle, Sir
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
Nov 2012

Since these mountebanks sooner or later beg their listeners for money, it is correct to treat them as businesses above all....

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
2. So do I. :-)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

And you're right - they eventually want donations. I say he should pay the fifty bucks and go hawk his crap in the student union.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
3. Not even there, since that's where students go to decompress
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
Nov 2012

and not be given the hard sell by a Christian bully.

If he's not working at nor attending the college, he's got no business being there and should be politely but firmly be escorted off the campus whenever he is spotted.

And he will be spotted. Bullies are nothing if not persistent.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
4. I see your point, and
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
Nov 2012

I think you're right.

I don't know what the school's policy is regarding religious preaching in the student union, especially religious preaching by anyone not affiliated with the college, but one of my kids said he'd heard that one of the places the guy wanted to preach was an outdoor area on campus called the quad, and it has never been a welcoming place for soapboxes.

That "commercial" applies in this case could mean he intended to sell bibles.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
10. Yep. I've been in that Union
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:17 PM
Nov 2012

I did some work there a couple years ago. It's not very big and he would be a nuisance if he was in one of the public areas.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
6. Wonder if the mining engineers didn't think his creationism was useful locating ore bodies.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:10 PM
Nov 2012

Just a thought.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. It's the school's property, no?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:21 PM
Nov 2012

They can ask him to preach elsewhere.

Congress has still made on law curbing his speech.

If it's State property, he indeed cannot preach there.

 

MisterScruffles

(76 posts)
8. Idiot
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 05:38 AM
Nov 2012

I suppose I ought to invite an Imam into his church. I'm he'll respect the Imam's freedom of speech, right?

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
9. Oh, sure he will! Not.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:04 PM
Nov 2012

If the college allowed a Christian evangelist to preach on campus, it would have to allow reps of other religions to also. Besides Americans (Christian and non-Christian), SDSMT has students and faculty from India, Pakistan, China and elsewhere. It might get a little noisy if they all decided to preach.

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