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Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:53 AM Oct 2012

An unusually large percentage of the Atheists I meet

Went to Catholic school (as did I). Anyone else notice this? An Evangelical Christian I worked with back in the 80s once told me, only half-jokingly, that Catholic school is where they train Atheists.

I was thrown out of Catholic school.

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An unusually large percentage of the Atheists I meet (Original Post) Mr.Bill Oct 2012 OP
Count me in. evlbstrd Oct 2012 #1
I wouldn't know, I've never knowingly met another atheist Fumesucker Oct 2012 #2
how to spot an atheist Armin-A Nov 2012 #24
I know where you can meet LOTS of them on Sunday morning. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2013 #29
I'm going out on a limb and guessing it depends mostly on where you grew up. dimbear Oct 2012 #3
I've pointed it out for many years Warpy Oct 2012 #4
I consider myself a Catholic school survivor. smokey nj Oct 2012 #5
I was invited to leave catholic school in the second grade. Iggo Oct 2012 #6
Absolutely Mr.Bill Oct 2012 #9
Or were raised as Southern Baptists... like me! n/t kdmorris Oct 2012 #7
Ditto on that one. Neoma Oct 2012 #20
Most of the kids I went to school with were catholic. beam me up scottie Oct 2012 #8
I'll go against the tide here. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #10
Although it doesn't mirror my path to Atheism, Mr.Bill Oct 2012 #11
understand completely sammythecat Aug 2013 #25
That wasn't the case for me. Curmudgeoness Oct 2012 #12
Not for me...but I think it may have been a factor for my sister DagoRed Oct 2012 #13
"St. Fisting of the Bloody Terror" beam me up scottie Oct 2012 #14
"Our Lady of the Erroneous Assumption" is just down the block. nt GliderGuider Oct 2012 #15
Hi GG! beam me up scottie Oct 2012 #19
I was spared the Catholic secondary education three of my older sisters and my older brother had smokey nj Oct 2012 #17
Welcome to DU! I think you'll fit in nicely! Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #22
My father was raised Ukrainian Orthodox - he became one of the most vocal atheists I've known. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #16
I was raised mainstream ECLA Lutheran Odin2005 Oct 2012 #18
Indeed, I've noticed that... meeshrox Oct 2012 #21
Include me in. Simo 1939_1940 Nov 2012 #23
Count me in as well ... Trajan Aug 2013 #26
Catholicism itself had very little to do with it for me. LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #27
I've heard of a similar story with regular Catholic church goers not going to Catholic schools ShadowLiberal Aug 2013 #28
I was 'saved' from religion much earlier than catholic school. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #30

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. I wouldn't know, I've never knowingly met another atheist
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:42 AM
Oct 2012

Is there some sort of atheist recognition sign of which I'm unaware?

A secret handshake perhaps?

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
29. I know where you can meet LOTS of them on Sunday morning.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:47 PM
Sep 2013

At a Unitarian-Universalist church or fellowship.

I've met several nice atheist boys there, including the one who I have been with for almost twenty years and is my soulmate.

Or if you don't want to be airy-fairy about it, he's
"the one".

www.uua.org

One sign is that after church, the UUs worship The Giver of Life --
The Coffeepot (very old joke)

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
3. I'm going out on a limb and guessing it depends mostly on where you grew up.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:45 AM
Oct 2012

Growing up out on the plains I hardly met any Catholics at all. Didn't meet a Catholic atheist 'til much later.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. I've pointed it out for many years
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:25 AM
Oct 2012

that Catholic schools are institutions dedicated to the production of atheists.

Most of the atheists I'm out to are survivors of Sister Mary Torquemada in all her incarnations.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
6. I was invited to leave catholic school in the second grade.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:45 AM
Oct 2012


EDIT: To be fair, and as far as the Three R's are concerned, it was the best damn school I ever went to.

Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
9. Absolutely
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:22 PM
Oct 2012

I think I could have passed most if not all of the tests I took in public high school when I was in the sixth grade, which was my last year of Catholic school.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. Most of the kids I went to school with were catholic.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:43 PM
Oct 2012

Almost all of the women are now recovering catholics.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
10. I'll go against the tide here.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:35 PM
Oct 2012

I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic school for a few years. To be honest my mother only sent us there because the public schools went on strike a couple of years in a row and at least the Catholic schools started on time! (She wasn't a nurturing sort of mom).

Anyhow, my faith and my years at Catholic school were only ever a comfort to me. The nuns we had (we had lay teachers and nuns) were pretty liberal, kind and patient. I never got hit there, didn't have to be highly aware at all times in order to survive, like at home with mommy dearest.

My journey to atheism was more of an intellectual quest. I had to reach a certain level of emotional development to begin the process and that happened in my thirties, after my dad died. I had been pretty dependent on him for guidance in almost all things. I doubt I would/could have ever made the journey while he lived so it's like his death was one of the worst things ever to happen in my life while also, in a way, being one of the best.

I hope that makes sense.

Julie

Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
11. Although it doesn't mirror my path to Atheism,
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012

It does make sense. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
12. That wasn't the case for me.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 07:03 PM
Oct 2012

I only know a few other atheists, but don't think that they went to Catholic schools....but I don't know.

I came from a family where my father grew up Catholic but turned away from the church before I was ever born. I don't know why, but I do know that he refused a priest even at the end. All I know is that he went to "Polish school" since his parents had immigrated from Poland, and that may have been a Catholic school, but I don't know for sure. My mother was lukewarm to non-believing as I was growing up, she grew up Methodist. I went to United Presbyterian church as a child because my older sister took me there. Neither of my parents went to church but they didn't say anything bad about religion....at least not until I declared that I was an atheist. At that time, I found that they had no belief in god either.

So there were a lot of religions involved in my family, but we all got to the same point.

DagoRed

(10 posts)
13. Not for me...but I think it may have been a factor for my sister
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:27 AM
Oct 2012

I was spared the Catholic school education, but my sister came at a time when the family had a bit more money, so she got the "benefit" of private schooling. But, she definitely had more of a trifecta of forces at work in her deconverson --

1) primary education at St. Fisting of the Bloody Terror (or whatever) Catholic school,
2) me (a dozen-years her senior + favorite brother + atheist = her mentor growing-up),
3) seriously deranged religious mother who was, and remains decades later, alienated from both of us

Your guess is as good as mine to which lead her to atheism today.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
17. I was spared the Catholic secondary education three of my older sisters and my older brother had
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:17 PM
Oct 2012

to endure because my parents couldn't afford it. It was the one and only time being broke actually worked in my favor. I got paroled after 9 years, my older siblings had to serve the full sentence.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
16. My father was raised Ukrainian Orthodox - he became one of the most vocal atheists I've known.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

I was brought up in a totally atheist household (both parents, my maternal grandparents, all my siblings, all our spouses and kids) - and I took up jnana yoga and Advaita. Go figure.

meeshrox

(671 posts)
21. Indeed, I've noticed that...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:37 PM
Oct 2012

I grew up as a devil in the basement baptist myself. As early as age 5, I got the shit scared out of me for even thinking bad thoughts, because gawd would know. And, even better, if I said anything bad I was giving the devil ideas!

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
23. Include me in.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:00 AM
Nov 2012

The Irish pastor of our parish and his Irish priests used to drink together and discuss theology. The discussions evolved into arguments, and the arguments fistfights in the street! The cops had to come to break them up more than once.

(Y'know......wherever you find four Catholics you'll find a fifth!)
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
26. Count me in as well ...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 10:56 AM
Aug 2013

Born of an Italian mother in the NYC area, you can be sure I was to be a Catholic ...

My mom wanted me to be an Altar Boy, so I could begin the journey to Priesthood .... I wanted to be an astronaut ....

I declared my atheism the day of my confirmation, as I walked down the church steps in my confirmation robe ...

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
27. Catholicism itself had very little to do with it for me.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:33 PM
Aug 2013

My issues come from theodicy, utter disgust and disdain for the "morals" advocated by televangelists like Pat Robertson, and a complete rejection of the concepts of hell, original sin, and salvation by faith.

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
28. I've heard of a similar story with regular Catholic church goers not going to Catholic schools
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 10:37 PM
Aug 2013

One of my grandparents came from a Catholic family, and I've heard from one of the Catholics in my family that when growing up a bunch of people in the church looked down on all the families that didn't send their children to Catholic schools, and always held out the children who did go to the Catholic schools as role model kids in the church.

But today, over 20 years later, she says just about zero of the adults in her Catholic church went to Catholic schools as children. The ones who went to Catholic school either rarely go to church unless it's some special service/holiday (like Christmas Eve/Easter Mass), or changed religions.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
30. I was 'saved' from religion much earlier than catholic school.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 10:31 PM
Sep 2013

Dad was a catholic. Mom a Presbyterian. Dad asked a priest to baptize my brother and I, and the priest said no, my mom, brother and myself were destined to go to hell.

So dad told the priest 'I'll see YOU in hell', and walked out. Neither parent really ever mentioned religion as we grew up. Neither parent stopped me from reading Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology as a child. By the time I got to Christianity, I was pretty good at spotting 'Myth'.

Hence, I've always been an atheist, but I probably have a catholic to thank for it.

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