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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:30 PM

Missouri Synod president apologizes for Newtown interfaith ‘debacle’

http://www.religionnews.com/2013/02/11/missouri-synod-president-apologizes-for-role-in-newtown-debacle/

Caleb K. Bell | Feb 11, 2013

(RNS) The president of the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod apologized for his role in the “debacle” that led him to publicly reprimand a pastor in Newtown, Conn., for praying at an interfaith service following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

In the initial incident, the denomination’s president, Matthew C. Harrison, requested an apology from the Rev. Rob Morris of Newtown’s Christ the King Lutheran Church for participating in an interfaith prayer vigil that followed the Dec. 14 shootings. Morris’ role in the vigil broke denominational rules against joint worship with other religions.

Morris complied and apologized — not for his participation, but for offending members of the St. Louis-based denomination. But the president’s request sparked a blaze of criticism —from within the denomination and outside it. Critics charged he was intolerant and insensitive to the town’s grieving residents.

“In retrospect, I look back and see that I could’ve done things differently,” Harrison said in a video posted on the denomination’s blog Sunday (Feb. 10). “My deepest desire was to bring unity, or at least to avoid greater division in the Synod over this issue.”

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Reply Missouri Synod president apologizes for Newtown interfaith ‘debacle’ (Original post)
cbayer Feb 2013 OP
msongs Feb 2013 #1
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #2
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #4
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #5
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #6
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #7
narnian60 Feb 2013 #9
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #10
narnian60 Feb 2013 #11
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #13
Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #14
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #15
Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #16
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #12
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #17
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #3
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #8

Response to cbayer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:36 PM

1. he is is unhappy that is his true beliefs became public. nt

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Response to cbayer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:41 PM

2. This is the dirty little secret that no one wants to address...

That each denomination thinks it is the TRUE church, and by worshiping together, they give legitimacy to other denominations. If you give legitimacy to other denominations, then you undermine your own claim to be the TRUE church and path to god.

While despicable, one must admire the attempt to avoid hypocrisy.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:53 PM

4. That is not true.

Not all churches are like that at all. My church does not say we are the true church at all.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:56 PM

5. Glad to hear that. What church do you affiliate with?

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:22 PM

6. Most mainstream Protestant denominations are perfectly ok with other

Protestant denominations and even other Christians like Orthodox and Catholics.

The "we're right and everyone else is going to burn in hell forever" attitude is associated with Christian fundamentalists - the same people who say every word of the bible is literally true, the world is 6000 years old, dinosaur fossils were put in the ground by Satan to deceive us, Satan is a real being that walks the earth, yada yada yada.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:24 PM

7. Fair enough.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:26 PM

9. Thank you, Kestrel,

for saying it for me.

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:34 PM

10. I was raised nominally mainstream Presbyterian, and had NO experience with the fundie crowd

or the "have you been SAAAAAVED?" thing or religious nuttery until I was in high school. Church was where we went on Sundays to listen to music and sing a little and learn a life lesson or two. That's ALL. Nobody in my family ever even mentioned God otherwise, lol. We were expected to treat people the way we wanted to be treated, and Sunday school was for getting those lessons early on.

Evangelizing??? WTH is that???? lol

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:44 PM

11. Exactly!

As a newbie, I am hesitant to post anything here that has to do with God, so I wanted to thank you for representing the voice of reason.

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:58 PM

13. Yeah, I try to stay out of the Religion Forum but their posts show up on Latest Threads

and I get drawn in.........

DU has a small but extremely vocal and aggressive anti-religion atheist contingent. IMHO they are possibly faking atheism just to make real atheists look bad. It's definitely working.

And I say this as a complete agnostic who only goes to church about every 5-7 years, for Christmas services, lol.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:14 PM

14. and you were doing so well.

 

i'm one of those atheists and was agreeing wholeheartedly with you until you stopped to hurl insults. poop.

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Response to Phillip McCleod (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:32 PM

15. Well I've about had it with the insults from the militant atheists.

Some people apparently can dish it out but they can't take it.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:34 PM

16. too bad this is the internet then

 

otherwise you could do something about it. presumably that is the implication of 'i've just about had it'?

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:44 PM

12. In the US it is called the Episcopal Church. The mother church is the Church of England.

The world name is The World Wide Anglican Communion.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:08 AM

17. Even my evangelical church doesn't believe that

Their view is basically that Jesus is good news for EVERYONE and so encompassing even non-believers don't have to convert to benefit and aren't going to burn forever for not doing so. But we still have a duty to show others how Jesus is good for them (NOT covert by force or with threats and scare tactics.)

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Response to cbayer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:41 PM

3. If this rule exists it needs to be dropped

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:24 PM

8. Churches can have whatever silly rules they want. Fundie churches have

LOTS of them.

But the law of the land may NOT be used to tell them to "drop" their own doctrinal rules. Separation of church and state, and all that.

I prefer that they keep their silly rule that shows them for the jerks they are, and let the members who have some common sense leave to join a more normal church.

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