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Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:54 AM

Catholic group opposes Ash Wednesday execution

Posted: Feb 04, 2013 7:56 PM EST
By Willard Woods

SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) - The scheduled execution of a man on Ash Wednesday doesn't sit well with one Louisiana religious group that has asked the governor to intervene.

Convicted killer Christopher Sepulvado, of Shreveport, is scheduled to be executed on Wednesday, Feb. 13. But that's also Ash Wednesday for Christians.

Citing Catholic social teaching and other tenets, the Louisiana Conference of Catholic Bishops (LCCB), issued a statement on Monday opposing the scheduled execution on Ash Wednesday.

"We in no way condone the actions of Christopher Sepulvado. ... At the same time, we acknowledge the Christian power of reconciliation and redemption which Christopher has embraced," the LCCB stated in its release.

http://www.ksla.com/story/20962353/catholic-group-opposes-ash-wednesday-execution

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Reply Catholic group opposes Ash Wednesday execution (Original post)
rug Feb 2013 OP
Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2013 #1
cbayer Feb 2013 #2
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #3
rug Feb 2013 #4
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #5
rug Feb 2013 #6
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #7
rug Feb 2013 #8
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #10
rug Feb 2013 #11
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #12
rug Feb 2013 #13
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #14
rug Feb 2013 #15
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #16
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #17
rug Feb 2013 #18
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #19
rug Feb 2013 #9
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #20
okasha Feb 2013 #21
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #24
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #25
okasha Feb 2013 #34
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #35
okasha Feb 2013 #36
rug Feb 2013 #22
okasha Feb 2013 #23
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #26
rug Feb 2013 #28
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #31
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #27
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #29
No Vested Interest Feb 2013 #30
rug Feb 2013 #33
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #37
pinto Feb 2013 #32

Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:13 AM

1. About the only thing the Church and I agree on is

opposition to the Death Penalty............

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:28 AM

2. Unlike other parts of the country, Ash Wednesday is a particularly important day

in Louisiana. Not only does it mark the beginning of lent, but is marks the end of the carnival session. I've lived a lot of places, but nowhere else have I seen it taken as seriously.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:53 PM

3. I'd prefer they oppose child-raping catholic priests, but hey, it's better than nothing.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:58 PM

4. Then you'd have nothing to talk about.

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Response to rug (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:08 PM

5. And you'd have nothing to deflect from.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:09 PM

6. Do you have a comment on the death penalty?

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Response to rug (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:13 PM

7. Sure, child-raping catholic priests should receive it.

As should most rapists, but especially the catholic priests.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:17 PM

8. Here's an idea. Why don't youu picket the picketers next Wednesday?

While they are opposing the death penalty outside the prison, you can picket them and hold signs up condemning priests. If you're really into it, you can call them all enablers of pedophilia. Maybe you can get somebody from here to join you. I'll throw in a few bucks to get you there.

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Response to rug (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:29 PM

10. Here's an idea. Why don't you condemn the child-rapers and protectors in your church.

While they are hiding from responsibility and the law, you can picket them and hold signs up condemning priests and their enablers and protectors. If you're really into it, you can recognize the laity's role in the travesty. Maybe you can get somebody from here to join you. I'll throw in a few bucks to get you there.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:32 PM

11. Oh, just go start another thread on it.

Don't forget the cartoon.

It's clear you do not support what these people are doing to stop capital punishment.

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Response to rug (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:37 PM

12. You go do that.

Ill post what I want when I want.

It's clear that you support your church in whatever endeavors it chooses.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:43 PM

13. No, you go do that.

You go on post whatever you want wherever you want, no matter how inane, disruptive, off-topic and stupid it is. When you get your ass handed to you, make sure you whine about it where somebody will care.

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Response to rug (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:50 PM

14. No, you go do that.

I'll wait here to have my ass handed to me. You wait here and continue to be one.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:52 PM

15. Pathetic.

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Response to rug (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:05 PM

17. Aww, rug, no need for self-deprecation.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:10 PM

18. No, there isn't. I don't self-delete.

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Response to rug (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:15 PM

19. Hahahaha!




Keep grasping.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:20 PM

9. Update: Jindal rejects Catholic Bishops' request to delay Ash Wednesday execution

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Response to rug (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:36 PM

20. Sounds like Jindal made the right call. n/t

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:54 PM

21. I take it you support the death penalty.

nt

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Response to okasha (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:25 AM

24. I don't support the death penalty but

it'd be rather hypocritical to delay this execution just because it happens to fall on Ash Wednesday. How is executing him after Lent any better? The right thing to do would be for Jindal to commute the sentence altogether.

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Response to okasha (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:00 AM

25. You take it incorrectly.

The issue isn't the death penalty, but making a religious accommodation.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:42 PM

34. The issue is a man's life.

Why is refusal to «make a religious accommodaeion» more important than whether the man lives or dies?

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Response to okasha (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:41 PM

35. Did I say that?

No, I didn't.

When I first read the post I got the impression that the sole objection of the Catholic bishops was the date of execution, which is at the onset of an important Catholic holy day/days.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #35)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:30 PM

36. You did seem to be saying that.

But I see by your post below that you didn't have the full context at the time.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:05 PM

22. No, it's just the latest in a long series of bad calls.

I think he's simply a bizarro version of a cafeteria Catholic.

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Response to rug (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:47 PM

23. I think Jindal is a bizarre version

of the noun of your choice.

I applaud the bishops' consistent opposition to the death penalty.

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Response to rug (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:07 AM

26. Are you considering the death penalty, or the date of execution?

The article makes it sound like the date of execution is the immediate issue. Given that the execution is going to take place, should there be a religious consideration for the date?

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #26)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:30 AM

28. The death penalty.

The date only underscores its morbidity. It's a clumsy headline. It's about opposition to the death penalty.

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Response to rug (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:30 PM

31. Ah, ok. I see now that the last paragraph in the full article

addresses the Catholic bishops opposition to the death penalty.

Yeah, that was a poorly written headline. I took it that the issue was the date of execution.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:08 AM

27. The Episcopal Church also stands with it Roman Catholic friends and opposes the death penalty.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:54 AM

29. And now they have some Catholic zoo animals

According to De Volkskrant, a leading Dutch newspaper, next Wednesday the predators in the Zoo at Nuenen (in the Catholic southern part of The Netherlands) won’t get their meal because of the celebration of Ash-Wednesday. It is a Catholic practice to fast on this day.

According to the Google translation (JAC: I have touched this up a bit):

The predators of Animal Kingdom in Nuenen will get nothing to eat next Wednesday. For that day is Ash Wednesday, and, as the zoo reports, the lions, tigers and wolves will be fasting.

The seals will have better luck than the carnivores. They will be served herring, a Catholic tradition on the day after Carnival. But the lions and other carnivores will get nothing.

According to Animal Kingdom, it is definitely not harmful to inflict a day of fasting on predators, for in the wild these animals do not eat every day. According to the zoo, such variation in feeding time helps the animals remain alert.

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/dutch-zoo-animals-must-abjure-meat-on-ash-wednesday/

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #29)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:27 PM

30. Unless the animals have the intent to sacrifice

their (forced) fast on Ash Wednesday has no merit.
It's like forcing a baby or toddler to fast. - they're incapable of forming intent.
Intent is what makes an action worthy or not so much.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #29)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:42 PM

33. Do you have a better source than Jerry Coyne?

Not that it has anything to do with the death penalty.

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Response to rug (Reply #33)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 05:32 AM

37. The Dutch newspaper - the link is in my post (nt)

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:50 PM

32. I'd love to see a blanket statement from Catholic hierarchy on the death penalty. In all cases.

At all times. I think there would be broad support from most lay Catholics to oppose the death penalty, fwiw.

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