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Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:03 PM

Nearly four in 10 U.S. residents blame weather on "end times"

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By Mary Wisniewski
http://news.yahoo.com/nearly-four-10-u-residents-blame-weather-end-200603898.html

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Nearly four in 10 U.S. residents say the severity of recent natural disasters such as Superstorm Sandy is evidence the world is coming to an end, as predicted by the Bible, while more than six in 10 blame it on climate change, according to a poll released on Thursday.

The survey by the Public Religion Research Institute in partnership with the Religion News Service found political and religious disagreement on what is behind severe weather, which this year has included extreme heat and drought.

Most Catholics (60 percent) and white non-evangelical Protestants (65 percent) say they believe disasters like hurricanes and floods are the result of climate change.

But nearly two-thirds (65 percent) of white evangelical Protestants say they think the storms are evidence of the "end times" as predicted by the Bible.

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Reply Nearly four in 10 U.S. residents blame weather on "end times" (Original post)
Adsos Letter Dec 2012 OP
quakerboy Dec 2012 #1
Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #10
2ndAmForComputers Dec 2012 #11
Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #13
quakerboy Dec 2012 #17
NoOneMan Dec 2012 #2
libdem4life Dec 2012 #3
Iggy Dec 2012 #4
Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #5
dimbear Dec 2012 #6
Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #7
mr blur Dec 2012 #8
cbayer Dec 2012 #9
Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #12
cbayer Dec 2012 #14
pinto Dec 2012 #15
cbayer Dec 2012 #16

Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:08 PM

1. Im pretty sure

Every generation of Christians thinks the world has fallen so far and things are so bad that its times are the end times. So this doesn't surprise me in the least.

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:57 PM

10. A small correction

There are "some Christians in every generation ... " There are some non-Christians who ... "
It doesn't take a Christian to be a doomsday prophet.

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Response to Thats my opinion (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:47 PM

11. But it does help a lot.

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Response to Thats my opinion (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:57 PM

13. True. Eschatology can also include non-theistic end-of-world scenarios.

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Response to Thats my opinion (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:06 PM

17. Kinda

But my observation is that Christians believe disproportionately to other groups that the world has "gone to hell" in their lifetimes, and that it is so bad that it will all be over soon. And historically, it started with the first generation of Christians, who thought that it was all done for. Jesus had been killed, and they were to live out their lives and then the end would come.

Its also my personal observation that it becomes more of an obsession than an idle thought for many Christians as they age and they feel nearer to the termination of their own stay on earth. To be fair, I doubt many of us care to contemplate everything just going on as normal without our valuable, important selves. But I still find it to be far more prevalent a conviction in the christian community than outside it. And in addition, I would say there is a difference among claiming Christians, where it appears much more often and in stronger doses in the fervent church adherents than among the vaguely faithful.

Could be wrong. The historic record is pretty clear we Christians always think the end is neigh. But maybe everyone else does as well. Ive not researched that. But, either way, I was not at all surprised by the op survey results.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:10 PM

2. Ironically, they may not be so far off the mark

 

But the earth will keep turning just the same without us here

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:31 PM

3. End Times ... Climate Change ... Same Events ?

Just as Creationism and Evolution have elements in common, once you get away from the 24-hour-day "science". There may potentially have been many Big Bangs along the celestial time table.

At least it helps me with the RWers.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:27 PM

4. Well? We have to blame it on SOMETHING!

 

the fault can't be what WE are doing to the planet.... Nahhhhh...

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:56 PM

5. Satan is on the move

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:16 AM

6. A quick google check shows that numbers of enterprising grifters are trying to cash a check on this.

Not sure whether they should be encouraged to fleece this flock or not.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:37 AM

7. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!

 

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:27 AM

8. Morons. nt

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Response to Adsos Letter (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:24 AM

9. Interestingly, the organization that did this survey uses exactly the opposite title:

Survey | Americans More Likely to Attribute Increasingly Severe Weather to Climate Change, Not End Times

http://publicreligion.org/research/2012/12/prri-rns-december-2012-survey/

But this one is much better at making theists look bad.


I'm not sure that a clear distinction can be made between climate change and end of times if one is a biblical literalist, as was the case for 75% of the non-white protestants.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:53 PM

12. Good catch on the title.

I didn't look at the original study.

The conservative Christians whose beliefs I am most familiar with, and who would be considered literalists by most people, believe that many end-of-times "signs" are the result of sin, i.e. "missing the mark." In the case of climate change it would be less about God causing/punishing and more about humans "missing the mark" in terms of environmental responsibility.

So, yeah, the ones I'm familiar with would consider climate change a result of human activity, but would also view it as a sign of the approaching end of time.

EDIT: Must try to remember to write in complete sentences...

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:59 PM

14. There is a growing environmentalist movement within some evangelical communities

pretty much based on what you are describing.

That's a good thing.

It's the ones who just throw their hands up and say, "God's will" that are the problem.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM

15. Great example of how a headline editor can frame an article.

It's a hobby of sorts for me, comparing various leads for the same story. I have a single page set of headlines from different sources - BBC, NYT, LAT and the AP items via Yahoo. Some are amazingly divergent at first look (which is often all some read) until you actually read the articles.

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Response to pinto (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:51 PM

16. It is a great example. This one is clearly more "sexy" as it reinforces

stereotypes that spark controversy.

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