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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:06 AM

SJC to hear case from atheist family

By Michael Hartwell, mhartwell@sentinelandenterprise.comlowellsun.com
Updated: 11/18/2012 06:35:27 AM EST

The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court is gearing up to hear a court case that could permanently strike the phrase "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance recited by schoolchildren.

On Wednesday, attorneys representing an atheist family from the Acton area filed a brief with the state's highest court. The same group had previous challenged the Acton-Boxboro Regional School District and the Town of Acton Public Schools, where the family's three children attend, in Middlesex County Superior Court, saying that the phrase "under God" is an endorsement of a religious world view.

The unidentified family is joined in the case by the American Humanist Association, a secular-rights group. They say this violates the equal-rights amendment in the Massachusetts Constitution. In addition, they also say the daily recital of the pledge counts as unlawful discrimination.

On June 8, the suit was rejected by the Middlesex Superior Court, and the Supreme Judicial Court decided last month to hear the case. Oral arguments will start in early 2013, and the judgment should be revealed by early summer.

http://www.lowellsun.com/todaysheadlines/ci_22021579/sjc-hear-case-from-atheist-family

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Reply SJC to hear case from atheist family (Original post)
rug Nov 2012 OP
LARED Nov 2012 #1
cleanhippie Nov 2012 #6
LARED Nov 2012 #9
cleanhippie Nov 2012 #11
mzteris Nov 2012 #2
longship Nov 2012 #7
mzteris Nov 2012 #8
cbayer Nov 2012 #3
rug Nov 2012 #4
cbayer Nov 2012 #5
rug Nov 2012 #10

Response to rug (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:20 AM

1. It's amazing

 

from these simple words

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


arise so much angst.

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Response to LARED (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:35 AM

6. It's amazing

that wanting to follow those simple words creates such hatred.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:11 PM

9. Creates hatred? Really?

 

Not buying it.

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Response to LARED (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:22 AM

11. Arises so much angst? Really?

Not buying it.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:25 AM

2. My son used to say

"under BUDDHA" when he got to that part.

Funny thing, people stopped saying it when he was around.

(We were homeschooling by then, so the whole school part was moot, but you'd still run into it in some hs groups.)

Sadly, the vast of majority of people who "recite the Pledge" have absolutely NO knowledge of its history!

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Response to mzteris (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:37 AM

7. The pledge was the idea of a socialist democrat at the turn of the 20th century.

The words, "under god", were added during Ike's administration in the 1950's.

As a high school math teacher I never recited the pledge when it came over the PA every morning. No student ever said anything about the fact that I didn't participate. If they had, I would have related the pledge's history.

Look it up and find out how this silly pledge came to be. Make sure you read Francis Bellamy's original wording from 1892.

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Response to longship (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:08 PM

8. Oh, I know the entire history.

Used to argue it a lot. They refused to listen and wouldn't accept it anyway so I stopped pretty much unless someone is really interested.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:37 AM

3. I hope they win this one. I think it's time to remove it from the pledge.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:39 AM

4. I think it's time to get rid of the Pledge in its entirety.

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Response to rug (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:47 AM

5. I agree with that. There has always been something creepy about it.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:11 PM

10. Public civil piety is as bad as public religious piety, except the state is armed.

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