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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:23 AM

What rib did Adam lose?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2011/08/19/ncbi-rofl-what-did-god-do-with-adams-penis-bone/

NCBI has a nice little paper highlighted in one of Discovery Magazine's blogs.
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One of the creation stories in Genesis may be an explanatory myth wherein the Bible attempts to find a cause for why human males lack this particular bone. Our opinion is that Adam did not lose a rib in the creation of Eve. Any ancient Israelite (or for that matter, any American child) would be expected to know that there is an equal (and even) number of ribs in both men and women. Moreover, ribs lack any intrinsic generative capacity. We think it is far more probable that it was Adam’s baculum that was removed in order to make Eve. That would explain why human males, of all the primates and most other mammals, did not have one. The Hebrew noun translated as “rib,” tzela (tzade, lamed, ayin), can indeed mean a costal rib. It can also mean the rib of a hill (2 Samuel 16:13), the side chambers (enclosing the temple like ribs, as in 1 Kings 6:5,6), or the supporting columns of trees, like cedars or firs, or the planks in buildings and doors (1 Kings 6:15,16). So the word could be used to indicate a structural support beam. Interestingly, Biblical Hebrew, unlike later rabbinic Hebrew, had no technical term for the penis and referred to it through many circumlocutions. When rendered into Greek, sometime in the second century BCE, the translators used the word pleura, which means “side,” and would connote a body rib (as the medical term pleura still does). This translation, enshrined in the Septuagint, the Greek Bible of the early church, fixed the meaning for most of western civilization, even though the Hebrew was not so specific .../snip

Do you think you ought to ask your local biblical literalist about this?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2011/08/19/ncbi-rofl-what-did-god-do-with-adams-penis-bone/

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intaglio Nov 2012 OP
glowing Nov 2012 #1
TahitiNut Nov 2012 #2
cbayer Nov 2012 #8
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #3
trotsky Nov 2012 #6
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #4
dballance Nov 2012 #5
Sam1 Nov 2012 #7
cbayer Nov 2012 #9
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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:28 AM

1. That's actually interesting. Lol.

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:10 AM

2. So, Eve was a big prick?

I guess that explains her penchant for fruit.

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:43 AM

8. Hello TahitiNut! So nice to see you back on DU.

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:29 AM

3. Sounds like a logical fallacy to me:

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:50 AM

6. LOL! n/t

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:23 AM

4. Do you think you ought to ask your local biblical literalist about this?

Nah....

It's a myth, so I don't need to have it make sense in a real world way. A rib is fine. It's not "true" anyway. It's symbolic. A nice little story.

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:23 AM

5. Can you say "mythology?"

Why would we consider any Biblical-based story as any more valid than any other myths?

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:34 AM

7. So of course

as soon as he was able man replaced it with viagra.

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:45 AM

9. I know there is a good Viagra joke here somewhere.

It's a much better explanation than the usual rib interpretation, imo.

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:54 PM

10. God loves Hebrew puns. These events 'happened' about 4000 BCE.

He named Adam and Eve and so on using Hebrew puns. Then, about 3000 years later, Hebrew was invented.

Quite a trick.

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Response to intaglio (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:33 PM

11. Humm. I doubt it was the baculum referred to in scripture unless

 

man has more than one of them.

Gen 2:21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh.

Gen 2:22 And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man.

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