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Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:10 PM Oct 2012

Radical Rally: Religious Right Meets In Philadelphia To Demand ‘Christian Nation’

Oct 1, 2012 by Rob Boston in Wall of Separation

A number of Religious Right groups held a rally in Philadelphia over the weekend to remind everyone that when it comes to religion, they’re right and the rest of us can go jump in the lake (of fire).

Headlining the event was TV preacher Pat Robertson of the Christian Broadcasting Network. Pat is now 82 but still pours on the crazy on a regular basis on his “700 Club.” After I wrote The Most Dangerous Man in America?: Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition in 1996, I considered issuing a type of annual supplement of every intolerance or insane thing Robertson said. I had to abandon the project when I realized I wouldn’t have time to do anything else.

An estimated 8,000-10,000 people attended the event on Independence Mall. Here’s Bro. Pat’s money quote: “I don’t care what the ACLU says or any atheist says, this nation belongs to Jesus!”

Let’s deconstruct that a little bit. What Robertson is really saying here is that the nation belongs – not to Jesus – but to an interpretation of Jesus and his teachings favored by Christian fundamentalists.

http://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/radical-rally-religious-right-meets-in-philadelphia-to-demand-christian


“I don’t care what the ACLU says or any atheist says, this nation belongs to Jesus!”

Where to begin with such a sentiment? Our very own Taliban.
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Maybe we should start referring to them as the American Taliban Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #1
Don't underestimate this group of nuts. They are very serious and many americans are southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #3
"...women will have to stay home and out of the work place. They will outlaw divorce." Adsos Letter Oct 2012 #5
Evidently she doesn't understand what christain values mean to real christains. I will southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #6
You are right on. The Bill Moyers show this week focused on ALEC, who cbayer Oct 2012 #9
I heard that show on our local NPR station. Definitely scary, infuriating, and important. n/t Adsos Letter Oct 2012 #10
Oh I didn't have a chance to watch the show. But honestly you can see them trying hard to southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #14
You can stream the show. Really worth a watch and made me realize how important it cbayer Oct 2012 #15
yes indeed and make sure we tell all our friends to make them aware. You be surprised how southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #17
How did I get into this? All I said was they are like the Taliban. Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #12
Who criticized you? Adsos Letter Oct 2012 #13
Maybe it wasn't criticism, but indicating I wasn't informed or concerned enough about these RW nuts. Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #16
I didn't say you were uninformed at all. Adsos Letter Oct 2012 #18
No problem. Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #19
I can't think of anything more dangerous since Fascism. Viva_Daddy Oct 2012 #2
What is even worse is that he is saying that the nation is a specific kind of christian nation - cbayer Oct 2012 #4
People have argued about the correct brand of Christian since the beginning. Adsos Letter Oct 2012 #7
Agree on all counts. cbayer Oct 2012 #8
blasphemers!!!! we should give up our free speech rights to the UN and rioters! nt msongs Oct 2012 #11

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
1. Maybe we should start referring to them as the American Taliban
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:12 PM
Oct 2012

Isn't he ever going to retire? He makes my head hurt.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. Don't underestimate this group of nuts. They are very serious and many americans are
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:26 PM
Oct 2012

not paying attention to them. I know I sound nuts but the religious right has taken of the republican party. That is the new republican party. They are already taking womens rights away just on the birth control pill. These people are no better than any religious zealots. If they get their way women will have to stay home and out of the work place. They will outlaw divorce. Life will go back like the 40s or 50s when the husband ruled and any money a wife had saved and put in her own name in a bank account he could take.

Adsos Letter

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5. "...women will have to stay home and out of the work place. They will outlaw divorce."
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:36 PM
Oct 2012

You are directly underlining something that I was trying to figure out how to express in a response to FrustratedLady, and you did it much better than I would have. Do the majority of the rank-and-file of these people really understand what a real theocracy would mean for them personally?

I have a cousin who is just about to enter her sixth marriage (she has a tendency not to make wise choices in this respect). She also has a nice public sector job which provides her a comfortable lifestyle. The other day she was posting on FB about how our country needs to "return" to its Christian values. I wonder if she, and those like her, realize what that could mean for her?


EDIT: ...got my user names confused...

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. Evidently she doesn't understand what christain values mean to real christains. I will
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:42 PM
Oct 2012

tell you people need to be afraid. I am so serious and something people think am being nuts. All you have to do is google "Seven Mountains". That will kind of show you what the religious right is patiently waiting to do. They started at the school boards working their way to local offices then state and now national. Every part of our country is being taken over and we are not paying attention. I don't want to go back to the 40s and 50s where women really had no rights unless your a rich woman like Mrs Romney.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. You are right on. The Bill Moyers show this week focused on ALEC, who
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 02:13 PM
Oct 2012

prey on and use the religious right.

They have put their focus on local and state elections knowing that this would lead not only to significant legislative change, but would feed into the national level given enough time.

It was a frightening show and highly recommended.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
10. I heard that show on our local NPR station. Definitely scary, infuriating, and important. n/t
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:11 PM - Edit history (1)

 

southernyankeebelle

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14. Oh I didn't have a chance to watch the show. But honestly you can see them trying hard to
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:53 PM
Oct 2012

take over. Women are fighting back. The men who love them and their daughters better wake up and fight it also.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
15. You can stream the show. Really worth a watch and made me realize how important it
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:19 PM
Oct 2012

is to pay attention to the down ticket races.

Some of the state legislation and things passed by local school boards this past year have been alarming.

You are absolutely right. If we don't push back, they will just gain momentum.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. yes indeed and make sure we tell all our friends to make them aware. You be surprised how
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

many people aren't aware.

Frustratedlady

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12. How did I get into this? All I said was they are like the Taliban.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:45 PM
Oct 2012

I don't doubt the crazed RW and their leaders/followers are extreme to an extreme. I know two women who are into the end times and 2nd coming. I barely know them anymore, as all the think/write about is religion. I'm a Christian who believes in a live and let live way of life, so don't criticize me.

I thought that once the last end times passed, they'd go back into their caves, but they still believe. Rick Santorum is another example of radical right. Palin is only a "believer" on air, but not a model citizen on beyond.

In no way am I standing up for these people. Don't think I'm THAT crazy.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
16. Maybe it wasn't criticism, but indicating I wasn't informed or concerned enough about these RW nuts.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

I've been concerned about them for years to the point where my friends think I'm an atheist, or something for criticizing the evangelicals and radicals.

I wish the RW radicals would go to church, read their Bibles and spend their time praying while we get this country straightened out. If they think they can rob the country out from under us, they are insane.

Sorry if I got upset at the comments, but I am sick to death of the religious right and their antics. I have seen people morph into zombies that used to be intelligent, sane people all because of these idiotic ideas and scare tactics. The only way out is to deprogram them like cult members. Jim Jones was a pussy cat compared to these clowns.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. What is even worse is that he is saying that the nation is a specific kind of christian nation -
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oct 2012

his brand.

It is very disturbing that an estimated 8,000 - 10,000 people showed up for this.

They plan another event in DC two weeks before the election.

I maintain that it is foolish to write off the fundies in this election. They have and can organize GOTV efforts like few other groups.

Adsos Letter

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7. People have argued about the correct brand of Christian since the beginning.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:51 PM
Oct 2012

Some are extremely toxic. One of the best reasons I can think of for Church/State separation, along with what I believe is the fundamental natural right to freedom of conscience.

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