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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:27 AM Sep 2012

Pakistani police: Muslim cleric framed girl in Pakistan blasphemy case

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/03/pakistani-police-muslim-cleric-framed-girl-in-pakistan-blasphemy-case/

September 3rd, 2012
08:30 AM ET
From Nasir Habib, CNN

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) – Pakistani police say a Muslim cleric planted evidence to link a Christian girl to blasphemy - a new twist in a case that has fanned flames of religious tension in the country and attracted worldwide interest.

The imam, Khalid Jadoon Chishti, will himself face blasphemy charges for tearing pages out of a Quran to use as evidence against the girl, Islambad police chief Bin Yamin said.

The latest development may make it easier for the girl, 14-year-old Rimsha, to be released on bail at her next court hearing.

Police arrested Rimsha last month after a neighbor accused her of burning pages containing texts from the Muslim holy book, the Quran.

There is a link to the full story at this link, in case you are not familiar with it.
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Pakistani police: Muslim cleric framed girl in Pakistan blasphemy case (Original Post) cbayer Sep 2012 OP
A supposedly wise man once said, in this very forum: trotsky Sep 2012 #1
He only lied because he's Muslim edhopper Sep 2012 #6
Ah ah ah... trotsky Sep 2012 #11
Apparently skepticscott Sep 2012 #8
I'm sure we will soon hear the wonderful stories... trotsky Sep 2012 #12
Good For The Police, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2012 #2
Me, too. And release this poor child right away. cbayer Sep 2012 #3
Agree. A 14 year old girl accused by a neighbor. And the imam looks to be hoisted on his own petard, pinto Sep 2012 #4
As a friend of mine used to say, okasha Sep 2012 #5
While it's nice that whatever system in place there skepticscott Sep 2012 #7
There's so much missing from the story. Igel Sep 2012 #9
The facts surrounding this story have been very sparse. For example, cbayer Sep 2012 #10
The one fact that is not in question skepticscott Sep 2012 #13

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. A supposedly wise man once said, in this very forum:
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:29 AM
Sep 2012

"None of us would want to live in a society without some sort of an ethical sensitivity based on solid religious faith."

None of us can say THAT society doesn't have an ethical sensitivity based on solid religious faith. But how many of us would want to live in it?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. Ah ah ah...
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:45 PM
Sep 2012

REAL Christian clergy don't lie. There are lots of fake Christians who do, but like Paul Ryan, they're all secretly atheists because we all know only atheists can be evil.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. Apparently
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:13 PM
Sep 2012

ANY sort of "ethical sensitivity based on solid religious faith" will do, and be far superior to one reached without "solid religious faith", even it it means threatening an innocent and impaired child with the death penalty, not to mention the resulting death threats against her family and neighbors.

But we'll probably be told that these weren't "real" Muslims, just Muslimists, and that they don't count as religious people, because it's a given that no "real" religious person would do such things.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. I'm sure we will soon hear the wonderful stories...
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:47 PM
Sep 2012

of how people were motivated by their religious faith to find out the truth about this event caused by a person who was motivated by their religious faith but really he wasn't, as you know.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
4. Agree. A 14 year old girl accused by a neighbor. And the imam looks to be hoisted on his own petard,
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

so to speak.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
7. While it's nice that whatever system in place there
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

apparently has managed to get at the truth, if there weren't millions of people out there who think that "blasphemy" qualifies as a crime in the first place, and if there weren't people so fired up to punish others (even children) for it that they needed to frame them, this would never have been news at all.

But of course the fact that all of these cases were solely motivated by religious "faith" and belief will be ignored completely by certain folk in this forum. They know who they are.

Igel

(35,270 posts)
9. There's so much missing from the story.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

Did the imam plant the evidence after the neighbor made the accusation?

Did the imam put the neighbor up to the accusation?

Either way, why, exactly, did they make the accusation?

Did the girl not bed the imam's or neighbor's son?

Did the girl's father dare to not move and let the land they live on be used by a good Muslim or better Pakistani?

Did a family member say something offensive and this was the punishment for being uppity?

What does the imam's "flock" have to say about this?

Of course, it could be some other way completely.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. The facts surrounding this story have been very sparse. For example,
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sep 2012

the girls age and the nature of her disability have been inconsistently reported.

Not sure how much more we will get.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
13. The one fact that is not in question
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 05:34 PM
Sep 2012

is that this is all a result of a moral and ethical system based on "solid religious faith", which is the best kind, as I'm sure you've been told.

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