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Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:54 PM

Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God?

Many blame Satan for the evils of this world even as his power to deceive all of us comes from God.

As the creator of Satan, many think that God deserves the blame as he knew what Satan would be because God knows everything in advance.

What is the greatest evil you can think of and who do you think is to blame for it?

Who is the greatest sinner, Satan or God?

I lean toward God as scriptures name him the Alpha and Omega which to me means the best and the worse. Also, scriptures have God saying not to place any other above him and I would be going against this by placing Satan above him in the category of the most evil. I do not want to break the first commandment.

Do you dare by putting Satan above God?

Regards
DL

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Reply Does the award for the greatest evil go to Satan or God? (Original post)
Greatest I am Aug 2012 OP
Hydra Aug 2012 #1
Greatest I am Aug 2012 #17
jody Aug 2012 #2
Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #7
jody Aug 2012 #9
Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #12
jody Aug 2012 #13
Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #14
Hydra Aug 2012 #16
trotsky Aug 2012 #8
jody Aug 2012 #10
trotsky Aug 2012 #15
Greatest I am Aug 2012 #18
GodlessBiker Aug 2012 #3
Greatest I am Aug 2012 #19
Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #4
Greatest I am Aug 2012 #20
Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #5
Greatest I am Aug 2012 #21
Tyrs WolfDaemon Aug 2012 #6
cleanhippie Aug 2012 #11
Greatest I am Aug 2012 #22

Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:10 PM

1. Depends on whether God built everything or not

If he's a landlord for some greater power, he's just dealing with the mess. If he created the mess, then all of us are reflections of him (artist's work reflecting him).

You're not the first to wrestle with this, by far.

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Response to Hydra (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:29 AM

17. The clay

can only be what the potter forms.

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DL

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Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:14 PM

2. If as parent of a child that creates crime are you more guilty of that crime than the child? nt

 

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Response to jody (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:07 AM

7. The allegedly all knowing all powerful all present sky being is not exactly equivalent to a parent.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:14 AM

9. Agree "not exactly equivalent" but it's close enough for discussion. nt

 

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Response to jody (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:17 PM

12. no really it isnt at all.

omniscience/omnipotence comes with direct responsibility.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:26 PM

13. So we have different opinions! I can live with that and you'll have to also. nt

 

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Response to jody (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:33 PM

14. whoa, wait, is your deity omnipotent and omniscient?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:03 PM

16. Apparently not

Because they seem to have missed your point that if the parent is all knowing and all seeing, but they create children that aren't, God most certainly IS responsible.

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Response to jody (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:10 AM

8. If you raised that child without telling them what behaviors are wrong,

you may not be legally responsible but you are most certainly morally responsible.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:14 AM

10. Agree. nt

 

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Response to jody (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:46 PM

15. So you agree that if there is a god, it is morally responsible for the acts of its creation? n/t

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Response to jody (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:32 AM

18. Rearing

If I rear the child for crime then yes.
If I rear the child for good and they turn evil then not.

Regards
DL

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Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:40 PM

3. As the story goes, only god has intentionslly destroyed every living thing ...

on the planet, down to one human family and two individuals of each remaining species, and has promised to destroy the earth altogether in the future.

That's pretty evil.

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Response to GodlessBiker (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:33 AM

19. + 1

+ 1

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DL

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Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:42 PM

4. Neither, humans deserve the greatest evil award.

because even if there is a God and a Satan, humans committed the evil acts.

Humans killed a million in Laos in the killing fields, twenty million in Nazi Germany, 800,000 in Rwanda, created an apartheid state with the American Indians and elsewhere, humans make child soldiers, kidnap children and force them into prostitution, set up factories where children are worked to death, and I've not even Delta with the various reported humanitarian violations reported in religious texts.

Humans did these things and more. They just use God, or Satan, to justify what they did.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:35 AM

20. Realism is not allowed for believers.

That is scripture.

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DL

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Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:46 PM

5. Perhaps they are just one and the same

just different names for the same being

Think of the Trinity

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:37 AM

21. Yes. A rediculaous concept.

Pushed into reality by Constantine for his own self-aggrandisement and forced down Christianity's throat.



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DL

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Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:28 AM

6. Frost Giants

Frosts Giants are normally the greatest evil people deal with.


(One should also beware the Black Mist, the Eaters of the Dead - but then, no-one has seen any for over a thousand years.)

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Response to Greatest I am (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:24 AM

11. Satan wins, hands down. Here is the proof, from the Bible!

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:40 AM

22. Thanks

Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

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