Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:51 AM
dballance (4,629 posts)
So is this contemporary concept of "traditional marriage" based on considering only Adam and Eve?
I'm just wondering if all these people wanting "traditional marriage" and "biblical marriage" are basing their belief that the Bible defines marriage as one man and one woman is because they look at Adam and Eve as the first "marriage" and then don't really look past that in the scriptures.
It is quite obvious they are not really reading their Bibles or they might think about shutting their traps. King Solomon, according to First Kings 11:1-3 had 700 wives and 300 concubines. That's a traditional marriage a lot of cheating, philandering husbands could get behind.
Abraham's wife Sarah instructed him to bear a child with her hand maiden because Sarah seemed infertile. Sounds like adultery to me. Of course the kid and the hand maiden got kicked to the curb as soon as Sarah finally got pregnant. Not a very kind and moral thing to do to your first son and his mother. Gee's Abraham, would you have been so hesitant about sacrificing your son if it were Ishmael rather than Issac on that alter????
And if these "traditionalists" really read their Bibles they'd find that nowhere in the Bible is the definition of marriage as "one man and one woman." Instead there are some rules obviously handed down by God since the Bible is the literal inerrant word of God such as (some paraphrasing here - not direct quotes):
1. Marriage shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)
2. Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines, in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)
3. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)
4. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)
5. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10)
6. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe, and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)
7. In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even if he had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)
If you are going to spew nonsense based on one of many religious texts that exist in this world I think you ought to at least read what that text says about the crap you are spewing. Not just repeat what everyone else is saying without going to the source.
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So is this contemporary concept of "traditional marriage" based on considering only Adam and Eve? (Original post)
Response to dballance (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:19 AM
cleanhippie (15,382 posts)
2. Where you see contradiction, they see confirmation.
Or so I've been told here.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring - Carl Sagan
Response to cleanhippie (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:14 PM
Igel (19,052 posts)
3. They see context.
What's said in one place is often evaluated in another. Mere practice doesn't connate approval, and, in fact, silence doesn't necessarily connote approval.
NT's also conspicuously absent from this obviously OT-oriented poster.
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