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Sun May 13, 2012, 04:03 PM

Mitt Romney and the Mormons think Jesus Christ was just an angel.

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Mitt also thinks he can become a God on earth and he and his wife will live in many palaces. I can not understand how the Evangelicals that claim to be so, "We are a Christian nation" can even consider this Blue blood for our President. I guess we are not as a Christian nation as we were told ha? Read about him for yourself at the link.http://www.google.com/search?q=mormons+think+jesus+is+an+angel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb#q=mormons+think+jesus+is+an+angel&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&channel=fflb&prmd=imvns&ei=cw6wT7vkHYL50gGbwdz-Cw&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=64ca53ca10d28ad0&biw=800&bih=473

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Reply Mitt Romney and the Mormons think Jesus Christ was just an angel. (Original post)
pwb May 2012 OP
skepticscott May 2012 #1
pwb May 2012 #4
patrice May 2012 #12
bluerum May 2012 #2
marybourg May 2012 #3
pwb May 2012 #5
muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #6
HereSince1628 May 2012 #7
laconicsax May 2012 #8
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struggle4progress May 2012 #10
pwb May 2012 #18
muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #20
dimbear May 2012 #9
demosincebirth May 2012 #11
provis99 May 2012 #14
2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #13
laconicsax May 2012 #15
pwb May 2012 #17
2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #22
Adsos Letter May 2012 #16
jeepnstein May 2012 #19
edhopper May 2012 #21
Ron Obvious May 2012 #23
daaron May 2012 #24
dimbear May 2012 #25
daaron May 2012 #26

Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 04:10 PM

1. There are people on this board

who think Jesus was just a distant relative of the guiding energy of the universe. At least when it suits them. And when there are elsewhere, sucking up to their Xstian cronies, their version of god and jeebus changes like a chameleon to fit the moment.

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Response to skepticscott (Reply #1)

Sun May 13, 2012, 04:20 PM

4. I know,

This is more for the believers in the trinity. The we are a christian nation people. It should not sit well with them, yet it seems to be?.

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Response to skepticscott (Reply #1)

Sun May 13, 2012, 08:15 PM

12. It's belief. It doesn't HAVE to be conistent or make sense. nt

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 04:13 PM

2. "just" an angel? Angels are supernatural beings. Jesus was just human.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 04:15 PM

3. Well he *does* live in many palaces, lol.

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Response to marybourg (Reply #3)

Sun May 13, 2012, 04:21 PM

5. Yes, he has that part down, now for the god on earth, President?.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 05:30 PM

6. Google searches without quotes around phrases prove very little

The links you get are just pages that mention 'Jesus' and 'angel' and 'Mormon' on the same page. Google results these days don't even have to have the words you search for on the page returned; sometimes they are just on an associated page. Nothing I see on the first page of results looks relevant to your claim.

Why don't you link to a genuine explanation of Mormon beliefs instead? It's save everyone else a lot of bother, since you've know what it says.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 05:52 PM

7. Without being too delicate, I'd say that subject line more than less misrepresents LDS beliefs

I can't say for sure what Mitt might believes, and I'll oppose him on political rather than religious grounds.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #7)

Sun May 13, 2012, 05:57 PM

8. +1

 

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #7)

Sun May 13, 2012, 07:30 PM

10. +

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #7)

Mon May 14, 2012, 08:09 AM

18. That is why I asked you to read the links.

Guess you did not.

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Response to pwb (Reply #18)

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:20 AM

20. Because they are irrelevant

I told you; your Google search was useless.

Just give us the real links.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 06:25 PM

9. It is very very hard to know what the Mormons believe. Do not have authoritative documents.

The fact that the Book of Mormon says xxxx or the Doctrine and Covenants say yyyy or the General Council says zzzz doesn't make it Mormon belief.

Mormons believe different things at different times, just like everybody else. That said, for a surprisingly not completely wrong take, see this Chick tract:

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0061/0061_01.asp

It summarizes all their more outrageous beliefs past or present.

Obviously it is propaganda, take it as such.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 07:54 PM

11. That's been a known fact. Not many non mormons have ever skimmed throught the

Book of Mormon.

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #11)

Sun May 13, 2012, 08:25 PM

14. Mark Twain went through the Book of Mormon.`

 

his thoughts on it: "The Mormon Bible is rather stupid and tiresome to read, but there is nothing vicious in its teachings. Its code of morals is unobjectionable --it is "smouched" from the New Testament and no credit given."

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 08:20 PM

13. And Jews think Jesus was just a normal guy. So what?

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #13)

Mon May 14, 2012, 12:21 AM

15. If you don't believe that he was God's only son who was born of a virgin and died for our sins...

 

...some people will think that you're unfit for office.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #13)

Mon May 14, 2012, 08:06 AM

17. Jews traditionally vote democrat.

Evangelical Christians are a huge voting block that vote puke. Post was more about religious voters than religion itself.

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Response to pwb (Reply #17)

Mon May 14, 2012, 10:52 AM

22. But Republicans have much less of an ick factor when voting for Jewish Republicans.

Except for the most deranged of the deranged voters, a repub who's Jewish, if he's enough of a dick, is a-OK for them. I see Mormons being generally regarded the same way. (If not now, once the novelty wears off.) Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but it's Republicans we're talking about. Being a dick to everything and everybody trumps all.

I had more hope for the "hey, evengelicals, did you know he's a Mormon?" line of action, but now I'm starting to think it'll be of very limited efficacy.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 02:41 AM

16. "Ghrist?"

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 08:58 AM

19. Many Evangelicals...

are wrestling with this issue. Mormons over the last few years have really tried hard to portray themselves as mainline Christians. They jump through all sorts of hoops to prove this. In reality, they are something quite different from what passes for a Christian church. For all the differences between the various denominations, the differences are really minute when compared to LDS doctrine. Mormons get all sorts of outraged when this is brought up.

We'll have to see how this all plays out. I do know it has the potential to split the previously solid voting bloc known as the Religious Right if it's played properly. What I expect to happen, though, is for the anti-Christians to drive them into Romney's arms.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:29 AM

21. One thing is known

Mormon's founder was a charlatan and many of his claims were proven false at the time he made them.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #21)

Mon May 14, 2012, 10:40 PM

23. A convicted charlatan no less

Not just a charlatan but an actually convicted conman.

As far as I'm concerned any evangelical voter we peel away from Romney by pointing out what Mormons actually believe is a win.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2012, 01:38 AM

24. Freemasonry is an often overlooked influence on Mormonism.

 

Interestingly, in their original formulation, secret societies were forbidden, but almost all the founders of Mormonism had a change of heart and became die-hard Masons, going so far as to incorporate many Masonic concepts, symbols and even rituals into their religious practice.

There's a short article on Wikipedia, but of course much more is available on the subject given a little oomph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_and_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

At some point, America will have to confront it's Masonic (not Christian) origin story. And one day, I expect, the Freemasons will tell us what we need to know to face that truth. The role of secret societies in U.S. history has been quite profound, and is interesting from an anthropological and historical perspective, without recrimination. Perhaps one day we will be able to utilize this information to put some of the pieces together, and some of the ghosts to rest.

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Response to daaron (Reply #24)

Tue May 15, 2012, 02:19 AM

25. I was living in Salt Lake when the incident of the overnight removal of masonic emblems occurred.

I vouch that it is true as recounted.

A visitor nowadays to Temple Square sees a much different representation than was there in the early 1960s. The mummified Native Americans are gone too. That was eerie, not to mention disrespectful.

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Response to dimbear (Reply #25)

Tue May 15, 2012, 08:11 AM

26. Right? Right? It's kind of a strange thing.

 

How secretive many fraternal orders became as the 20th century wore on.

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