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rug

(82,333 posts)
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 08:47 AM Sep 2016

Clint Eastwood, Bard of Competence

The director’s latest film eschews his typically epic cinematic themes to revel in an everyday miracle: being good at one’s job.



MEGAN GARBER
7:00 AM ET

In the days after US Airways Flight 1549 ditched into the Hudson River, with all 155 people aboard the plane surviving the impact, the water landing came to be known as “the miracle on the Hudson.” The term came from the movies: “We had a Miracle on 34th Street,” New York’s then-governor, David Paterson, said in a speech hailing the heroics that made for the successful water landing. He paused. “I believe now we have had a Miracle on the Hudson.”

In his upcoming movie about the fated flight, Sully—named, of course, for the pilot who guided the Airbus to safety that day—Clint Eastwood frames that miracle in more prosaic (you could also say more humanist) terms. Here, the successful ditching of the plane into the frigid waters of the Hudson is a triumph not of divine intervention, but of something both duller and more interesting: basic human competence. Things worked out the way they did that day because Captain Chesley Sullenberger and his first officer, Jeffrey Skiles, were able to summon years’ worth of rote aviation experience to transform a narrow body of water into an ad hoc runway.

That bit of spiritual revisionism would seem to make Sully, which will premiere on Friday as the 38th movie Clint Eastwood has directed, fitting for a moment whose movies are as concerned with reveling in life’s banalities as with escaping them. Sully is Eastwood’s entry into an expansive—and burgeoning—genre: “competence porn.”

This term seems to have been coined in 2009, by John Rogers, one of the writers of the TV show Leverage—based on his recognition that, “for the audience, watching competent people banter and plan was a big part of the appeal.” The genre is older than its coinage, certainly; Star Wars would be considerably less awesome had Luke been unable to get the hang of a light saber. But it is having a particular moment now. Its exuding of competence is what helped to give The Martian its “science the shit out of it” verve. And what makes Olivia Pope, in Scandal, compelling as a professional as well as a character. And also the doctors of Seattle Grace. And the wonks of The West Wing. And the space-travelers of Star Trek. (And also the cooks of Top Chef, and the designers of Project Runway, and the singers of The Voice, and the bakers of The Great British Baking Show.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/09/clint-eastwood-bard-of-competence/498626/

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Clint Eastwood, Bard of Competence (Original Post) rug Sep 2016 OP
I won't every go to another one of that rightwing assholes movies again. still_one Sep 2016 #1
How does Eastwood edhopper Sep 2016 #2
The chair told him to vote Trump rpannier Sep 2016 #3
There is that. rug Sep 2016 #4
You mean why him and not others? edhopper Sep 2016 #5
I'll rephrase it. rug Sep 2016 #6
I understand edhopper Sep 2016 #7
It reminds me of a commercial I've heard in this area edhopper Sep 2016 #8
If you find it, post it. It makes the point, so to speak. rug Sep 2016 #9
here edhopper Sep 2016 #10
Thanks. Collar and all. rug Sep 2016 #11
And GWC58 Sep 2016 #12
Welcome to DU. rug Sep 2016 #13
Sully may be a case of Munchausen by proxy Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #14
I see. Scully arranged for the birds to crash into the engines. rug Sep 2016 #15
Scully flew the plane to run into the birds. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #16
Lol, Sully aimed for the birds? rug Sep 2016 #17
Yes. Or merely did not avoid them when he saw they were in the way. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #18
Tch. okasha Sep 2016 #22
The Sully "accident" may also be seen as a self-fulfilling prophesy Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #19
! rug Sep 2016 #20
Finally an honest review of 'Sully' pokerfan Sep 2016 #21
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. There is that.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:15 AM
Sep 2016

But there is this: why does it take him to point out the singlemost refutation of miracles?

edhopper

(33,561 posts)
5. You mean why him and not others?
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:24 AM
Sep 2016

What do you mean the singlemost? I am just unclear about your meaning?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. I'll rephrase it.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:42 AM
Sep 2016

This review picks up on what I think is the singlemost effective response to claims of miracles. Simple human competence.

I referenced Eastwood because, despite his libertarianism, he made a movie which, apparently, quietly states that, deflating the very title of the movie.

edhopper

(33,561 posts)
7. I understand
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:49 AM
Sep 2016

agreed, though there have been those saying this for some time.
Though he might be the most visible.

The movie is called "Sully" though they do use the "miracle" in the tag.

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edhopper

(33,561 posts)
8. It reminds me of a commercial I've heard in this area
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:53 AM
Sep 2016

for the Hospital with the cyber-knife surgery. First person narration of a Pastor who thanks God first and then the surgery team for his successful surgery. Seems he gets it backward.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
12. And
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 11:41 AM
Sep 2016

if the surgery hadn't gone as planned, something went wrong, he, or others would blame the surgeons and say "it was gods will."

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
14. Sully may be a case of Munchausen by proxy
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 02:45 PM
Sep 2016

Sully was the acknowledged expert in this move long before it happened. All he had to do, was let it happen. And he'd be a hero. For saving the people from the accident he'd let happen.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
16. Scully flew the plane to run into the birds.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 03:11 PM
Sep 2016

Not so hard when there's a visible flock of them. And you don't take evasive maneuvers.

And its easy when you've mentally rehearsed, even obsessed on, this kind of scenario. And warned everybody it could happen.

Now it happens, and he's vindicated; proven right. And now he's a hero too.

Scully presents classic Munchausen by Another. First make the kid sick. Then nurse him and save him. To look like a savior.

Looks like this has a lesson about Christianity in it, after all.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
19. The Sully "accident" may also be seen as a self-fulfilling prophesy
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 03:03 PM
Sep 2016

For years Sully warned about this kind of accident, and developed the maneuvers to recover from them. His personal and professional reputation was so invested in this, that in some ways, Sully may have actually wanted this disaster to happen. To vindicate his warnings. And to give him a chance to show that his partial solution worked. One that destroyed the plane, but saved the passengers. And made him a hero.

So Sully was very highly motivated to see that this predicted or prophesied disaster came about. And as a pilot trained to avoid birds in the air, he knew exactly what could cause this disaster.

So did Sully himself actually cause the "accidental" disaster that he was involved in, and that he had long predicted?

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