No, I want to stop people pointing it out!

[rug]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/muslims-form-human-chain-pakistan_n_4057381.html




http://www.relevantmagazine.com/slices/photo-shows-muslims-protecting-church-egypt-congregants-attend-mass




http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/02/08/146575144/report-data-show-no-upsurge-in-muslim-american-terrorism




http://moroccantimes.com/2014/09/10363/german-muslims-hold-day-protest-agains-isis-terrorists




http://www.patheos.com/blogs/altmuslim/2014/01/year-in-review-top-ten-good-muslim-news-stories-of-2013/



Sorry, no cartoons.

[Jim__]

1. Citing facts - what a concept!

[rug]

2. It's surprising how many people prefer myths and stereotypes over facts.

[Jim__]

3. I gues cartoons are just another way of learning.

[rug]

7. No, I had in mind the religious stereotypes you're fond of peddling.

[skepticscott]

6. Facts?

Oh, you mean like the fact that not every religious person is a violent maniac?

Astounding. Who could have guessed? But keep worshipping...

[rug]

10. Like the fact that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not.

Not the weaselly "not every" framing you prefer.

Capisce?

Oh wait, you can't answer.

[Jim__]

18. Yes facts. Facts like actual photographic images of people doing what certain ...

... cartoon panels imply they don't do.

[Fumesucker]

4. Is there a Muslim majority nation where an open atheist is welcome?

I can't think of one but I don't know everything.

[rug]

8. What is an open atheist?

[Leontius]

9. One that's not closed?

[Fumesucker]

11. Let's say an atheist as likely to mention their atheism as theists are their theism

Which even here in the US can be every few moments.

From what I've run into online there are quite a few Muslims who can't get two sentences out without mentioning Allah, Mohamed (PBUH) or both. Often very, very polite and self effacing but their culture seems to require a great deal of public religious expression.

[rug]

12. It's not a completely facetious question.

Most of the prosecutions I've read about are for blasphemy, atheism being only one of dozens of ways to commit blasphemy.

The reportage tends to be on the sensationalist side but I'm skeptical that if one simply has no belief, he or she will be prosecuted or forced to go to a mosque at flogpoint.

Those states that hold show trials for blasphemers also are the most authoritarian states on the planet, which may be a greater incentive to persecute nonconformists than Islamic beliefs.

So, when you say "open", it strikes my ear more as a free speech issue rather than as a targeted persecution of atheists.

[Fumesucker]

13. Actually I was talking about cultural acceptance even more than legal acceptance

Legally I'm free to say what I want here in the USA, culturally not so much without paying a substantial social price.

I doubt it's any different in predominantly Muslim cultures.

[rug]

14. I would be interested in learning the answer to that.

[Lordquinton]

15. This answer is not surprising

Considering you don't even know what LGBTQIA means (if I missed that you actually answered that question, please guide me to it)

[rug]

16. I do know what TROLL is.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. Alert results

On Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:35 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

I do know what TROLL is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=230671

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

What a "clever" way of calling someone a troll. Rude, insulting, and inappropriate. Rug should answer the question (he doesn't like talking about gender/sexuality politics when it comes to his religion which is highly conservative on those topics) instead of calling someone a troll.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:45 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Considering the tone of the post to which he is responding, and the tone of this alert, this is just tit for tat and really not necessary. Be civil to each other in the thread and don't use a jury to get back at someone.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: A bit of snark, but seems to be in response to a "clever" way of calling someone ignorant. Not worth a hide.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation:

rude

Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: He didn't call you a troll anymore than you called him a homophobe in the post he's replying to.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Obvious attempt to call someone a troll.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Don't call people trolls. Simple.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[rug]

19. As expected.

Thanks for posting the results.

[Lordquinton]

21. But not LGBTQIA nt

[rug]

22. Of course I do.

As does everyone on this board.

[Lordquinton]

23. Then tell us, what does it mean? nt

[rug]

24. Sorry, I limit my conversations with people with imaginary friends.

[rug]

20. "Allah, if he was a doer of good, then increase his good deeds,

and if he was a wrongdoer, then overlook his bad deeds. Allah, forgive him and give him the steadiness to say the right thing."



Pallbearers place Muhammad Ali's casket in the hearse as it prepares to begin a procession through the fighter's hometown of Louisville, Ky., on Friday, June 10, 2016.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/10/funeral-procession-for-muhammad-ali-photos/

My conscience won't let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn't put no dogs on me, they didn't rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father. ... Shoot them for what? How can I shoot them poor people? Just take me to jail. -