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rug

(82,333 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:46 PM Apr 2016

Court to spaghetti: You are not a god

Kimberly Winston | April 13, 2016

(RNS) A federal court has ruled that the Flying Spaghetti Monster, referred to as “His Flying Noodliness” by fans and followers, is not, alas, the object of a real religion.

In a 16-page decision, the U.S. District Court of Nebraska ruled that Pastafarianism is satire, not sacred, and that anyone who thinks it is a religion has made an error “of basic reading comprehension.”

“This is not a question of theology,” the ruling reads in part. “The FSM Gospel is plainly a work of satire, meant to entertain while making a pointed political statement. To read it as religious doctrine would be little different from grounding a ‘religious exercise’ on any other work of fiction.”

The Tuesday (April 12) ruling came in response to a prisoner’s request to have Pastafarianism recognized as his religion, which would entitle him to Pastafarian literature and trappings. For example, Pastafarians sometimes wear colanders on their heads.

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/04/13/court-to-pastafarian-you-are-not-a-god/

Decision: https://www.scribd.com/doc/308299698/Cavanaugh-v-Bartelt

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Court to spaghetti: You are not a god (Original Post) rug Apr 2016 OP
. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #1
Let the twirling begin. rug Apr 2016 #3
About time courts decided what constitutes a real Religion. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #2
Page 1. rug Apr 2016 #6
Is this the Onion? Politicalboi Apr 2016 #4
No, it's the Opinion. rug Apr 2016 #7
Throw every religion against a wall, see which one sticks . . . Journeyman Apr 2016 #5
A comedic extrapolation is not a religion. rug Apr 2016 #8
Unprovable. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #20
Actually, the complaint was dismissed because the claim it was a religion was unproved. rug Apr 2016 #21
shucks stellanoir Apr 2016 #9
There's always the Church of Bacon. rug Apr 2016 #11
Clearly not a real religion. Not like Dudeism. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2016 #10
It's got the sandals at least. rug Apr 2016 #12
not enough bodies piled up in its name to be a real religion nt msongs Apr 2016 #13
No, the Court simply found it's bullshit. rug Apr 2016 #14
so starting a religion as satire edhopper Apr 2016 #15
The answer to your first question is yes. rug Apr 2016 #16
I was thinking edhopper Apr 2016 #17
L. Ron Hubbard died a fugitive on a yacht and Smith was taken from a cell and lynched. rug Apr 2016 #18
True edhopper Apr 2016 #22
live by the fair use, die by the fair use MisterP Apr 2016 #19

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. About time courts decided what constitutes a real Religion.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

Talking snakes, GOOD.

Pasta based, BAD.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. Page 1.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

"The Court finds that FSMism is not a "religion" within the meaning of the relevant federal statutes and constitutional jurisprudence. It is, rather, a parody, intended to advance an argument about science, the evolution of life, and the place of religion in public education. Those are important issues, and FSMism contains a serious argument but that does not mean that the trappings of the satire used to make that argument are entitled to protection as a "religion." Nor, the Court finds, has Cavanaugh sufficiently alleged how the exercise of his "religion" has been substantially burdened. The Court will grant the defendants' motion to dismiss."

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. Is this the Onion?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:53 PM
Apr 2016

What makes "real" religion? Dancing with snakes? Eating the body of Christ? Heaven? This is ridiculous. ALL religion should be treated equal. This judge has no right to say what's "real" and what's not. I'm sure it will be appealed as it should. I have no religion. I wish more people had no religion. It's ALL unreal to me.

Journeyman

(15,026 posts)
5. Throw every religion against a wall, see which one sticks . . .
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:55 PM
Apr 2016

then bow before his Holy Noodliness.

stellanoir

(14,881 posts)
9. shucks
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:05 PM
Apr 2016

am so disappointed.

then again,

a court denounced Christ & he gained an enormous following.

Ramen will endure !!!

/sarcasm

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
14. No, the Court simply found it's bullshit.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:15 PM
Apr 2016

Or, in legal parlance, "For the purposes of a motion to dismiss a court must take all of the factual allegations in the complaint as true, but is not bound to accept as true a legal conclusion couched as a factual allegation." Page 6.

edhopper

(33,488 posts)
15. so starting a religion as satire
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

is not a "real" religion. But one started as a con game for money is?
Hmmm?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. L. Ron Hubbard died a fugitive on a yacht and Smith was taken from a cell and lynched.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

Cynical hoaxsters who invent a religion do not go far.

Still, the LDS Smith left behind has prevailed. But I think Scientology has peaked.

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