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Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:02 AM

The brain: a user's guide

By Nigel Farndale
11:30AM BST 24 Apr 2012

It ought to be quite intimidating, talking to David Eagleman. He is one of the world’s leading neuroscientists, after all, known for his work on time perception, synaesthesia and the use of neurology in criminal justice. But as anyone who has read his best-selling books or listened to his TED talks online will know, he has a gift for communicating complicated ideas in an accessible and friendly way — Brian Cox with an American accent.

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Indeed, according to Eagleman, we mostly run on unconscious autopilot. Our neural systems have been carved by natural selection to solve problems that were faced by our ancestors. Which brings me to another of his books, Why The Net Matters. As the father of children who spend a great deal of their time on the internet, I want to know if he thinks it is changing their brains.

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Eagleman calls himself neither religious nor atheist, I should point out, but a Possibilian, a denomination of his own invention, that, like the book, has attracted a cult following. “The idea with Possibilians is that we don’t know what is going on here. It is a big, strange, lovely cosmos and if there’s one thing that is clear it’s that our ignorance of it is too vast to commit to atheism, and at the same time we know too much to commit to a particular religion.”

If we get closer to understanding the human brain, will it help us understand the universe, I ask, not feeling entirely confident that my question makes any sense. “Boy, that seems right,” he says. (Phew). “What’s happening in brain science at the moment is as exciting as the discoveries that are being made about the cosmos. Inner space and outer space. Maybe consciousness is a new kind of force, in the way electricity or magnetism is. It might be that, as we explore the brain, we come to an understanding of consciousness as being a separate property.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/9214684/The-brain-a-users-guide.html

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:28 AM

1. Possibilian.. i like that

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Response to yodermon (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:41 AM

5. Me, too. To the point and easy to understand.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:32 AM

2. What "commitment" does atheism require?

I did not know that saying "I'm not convinced by your evidence" is a commitment, I guess. Silly me.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:47 AM

3. Well, if you experience discrimination as a result, do you stay the course, abandon it or fake it?

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Response to rug (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:11 AM

4. Depends on whether this discrimination is in real life or online.

If online, I take it to the bigoted assholes.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:52 AM

6. And offline?

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Response to rug (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:06 AM

7. I try not to make waves.

Because of the negative repercussions, not really for myself but my family.

So am I committed to atheism then?

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Response to trotsky (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:09 AM

8. Who knows?

But there is a level of commitment and consequence to any position somebody takes, especially unpopular ones.

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Response to rug (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:53 AM

13. Would that include the position of Possibilianism? n/t

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Response to trotsky (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:07 PM

15. Possibly.

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Response to rug (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:12 PM

17. ! . . . as they say "Well played!"

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Response to trotsky (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:32 AM

10. I think the only commitment is not being afraid to use the word "atheist".

A "Possibilian" as defined in that article is merely a variety of atheist. The way Eagleman describes "Possibilian" describes me fairly well, but I still consider myself an atheist.

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Response to Silent3 (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:52 AM

12. I agree.

Eagleman seems to be making the all-too-common mistake of assuming all atheism = strong atheism.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:24 AM

9. I'd love to know if Eric Weihenmayer is using his visual cortex ...

... to process the input from these electrodes as he climbs Mount Everest.

... It concerns Eric Weihenmayer who, in 2001, became the first blind person to climb Mount Everest. Today he climbs with a grid of more than six hundred tiny electrodes in his mouth. This device allows him to see with his tongue. Although the tongue is normally a taste organ, its moisture and chemical environment make it a good brain-machine interface when a tingly electrode grid is laid on its surface. The grid translates a video input into patterns of electrical pulses, allowing the tongue to discern qualities usually ascribed to vision such as distance, shape, direction of movement and size.

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:36 AM

11. Me too. That was an amazing climb.

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:07 PM

14. That is way cool! I had no idea.

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:06 PM

16. Looks as though this might just fit me "to a 'T'". THANKS for posting!

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:36 PM

18. too vast to commit to atheism, and at the same time we know too much to commit to a particular relig

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Yawn....

Atheism is not the rejection of a particular religion.

It is the rejection of an ancient superstition: god

Only if you redefine "god" does this fly.

Under any traditional definition of a god, to an atheist, it's just not worth worrying about.

There's no need to go to the universe to reject a god. All species on this planet but one never made up such a concept. So god doesn't even "exist" on 99.99% of our own planet.

Must we go thru Russell's Teapot again???

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Response to rug (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:21 PM

19. People who make up words to describe themselves because they don't understand

words that are already available are really tiring.

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Response to darkstar3 (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:27 PM

20. +1

 

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