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Related: About this forumI'm trying to get to the root of America's Islamaphobia
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I caught a segment on O'Reilly that had a piece with Pat Robertson's thoughts on the merits of Islam. My imprecise transcript:
"Islam is a political system bent on world domination. ..... It is not a religion as such. ......Islam believes the world is divided into two parts; the world of Islam and the world of non-believers, who should convert and if not they should be put to the sword.....A military discipline bent on world domination."
I just cannot comprehend a major established Abrahamic religion would be so medieval????
-90% Jimmy
Here's the 700 Club video I forgot to post. Can't find the O'Reilly coverage of around Dec.9.
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(82,333 posts)Warpy
(111,245 posts)Islam was expansionist more for territory over conversion until the Ottomans began to totter. Christians treated the Jews far worse during the 1940s.
All zealots are Mediaeval, all treat women like cattle, and all are intolerant of any outsider unwilling to convert. It's a good thing they all hate each other. Otherwise, they might join forces.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)In a nutshell.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Strange.
One could think it was knowledge of the violent ayas/hadiths which could have caused fear.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I'm sorry. I forgot that the presence of good Muslims means that there are no bad Muslims, that ISIS and other similar groups are freedom fighters protesting western imperialism, and rape victims, gays, and apostates are NOT being stoned to death in fundamentalist Islamic nations.
WAKE UP PEOPLE! Having issues with violent, doomsday-oriented death cults, is NOT anti-progressive. Excusing the actions of right wing religious fundys just to avoid a label IS anti-progressive.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Yes, there was Islamophobia in the USA before that, but far less; 9/11 2001 was the day it went mainstream.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)And after 9/11 it got focused towards Islam. The root? Conservative ideology that there is an us and them? It's nothing simple, you could get a PhD on the subject and still not cover it all.
Iggo
(47,549 posts)There you go.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Someone who believes in their religion strongly enough to martyr themselves is a scary enigma to those who mouth religion but really aren't completely convinced.
Religion in the US strikes me as being a mile wide and an inch deep, I say this after watching the many many Christians in my own life closely for decades, Islam seems to have a much deeper sense of conviction about it.
It also seems that most Muslim majority nations have some form of Sharia, it's telling that the most vocal opponents of Muslim Sharia are the Christians who would most like to institute Christian Sharia here.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Doomsday cults suck. ALL of them. INCLUDING CBN. INCLUDING Islam.
Presented at the American Humanist Association 74th Annual Conference, May 7-10, 2015, in Denver, Colorado. #ahacon15
Reformists in Muslim countries are routinely silenced, through persecution or violence, which has been increasing over the last few decades as Islamism gains traction. Liberals are in a unique position to make a nuanced and compassionate critique of harmful conceptions of religion- a position which we are ceding. As a result, the only visible voices are those of hate-mongers from the far-right, Islamists and outright apologists. It is of the highest priority that liberals exert pressure on both groups towards positive change.
Sarah Haider is a co-founder of Ex-Muslims of North America, a community building organization for Ex-Muslims across the non-theist spectrum, for which she currently works to reduce discrimination of those who left Islam.
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