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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:53 AM Mar 2015

The Pope Is a Christian!

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2015/mar/29/pope-francis-against-rome/

Garry Wills
March 29, 2015


A homeless man after a haircut provided by the Vatican, Vatican City, February 16, 2015

At a recent I talk I gave about Pope Francis, a man asked me, “Why do more non-Catholics like the pope than Catholics do?” He was wrong, of course. A Pew poll two months ago found that 90 percent of Catholics like what the pope is doing—and the number is even higher (95 percent) among the most observant, Mass attending Catholics. The percentage of non-Catholics who view the pope favorably does not get above the 70s.

Yet the question was understandable. There is a perception of great resistance to the pope in his own church. This is largely the product of noise. Extremists get more press coverage than blander types, and some Catholic bloggers have suggested that the pope is not truly Catholic. They are right to be in a panic. They are not used to having a pope who is a Christian. They call Francis a radical because he deplores the sequestration of great wealth for a rich few and deprivation of the many poor. But Francis is a moderate. Jesus was the radical: “How hard it will be for the wealthy man to enter the kingdom of God….It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for the rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:23,26). In the Gospel of Luke (16:19-31), when the rich man (Dives) calls for succor from hell, Abraham, holding the poor man (Lazarus) in his bosom, answers: “All the good things fell to you while you were alive, and all the bad to Lazarus; now he has his consolation here, and it is you who are in agony.”

Some right wing Catholics would haul Dives up and enshrine him in the one percent of rich men who trickle wealth down on the rest of us. They are also descendants of those Pharisees who tried to keep people away from Jesus because “This fellow welcomes sinners and eats with them” (Luke 15:1-2). The modern Pharisees try to refuse the Eucharist to politicians who do not meet their doctrinal tests. Pope Francis’s response to this patrolling of the communion line is in his major statement so far, The Joy of the Gospel (No. 47):

The Eucharist, although it is the fullness of sacramental life, is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.


Which position would Jesus agree with? We find the answer in the Gospel of Mark (1:17), where Jesus says:

It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick; I did not come to invite virtuous people, but sinners.


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The Pope Is a Christian! (Original Post) cbayer Mar 2015 OP
That's what I hear from the Catholics I know. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #1
Yeah, that's a really old and silly canard. cbayer Mar 2015 #2
Gary Wills was on a book talk on C-SPAN this weekend re his new book No Vested Interest Mar 2015 #3
Thanks for that. The book sounds interesting and will look for the c-span broadcast. cbayer Mar 2015 #4
You know what homeless people actually need? Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #5

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. That's what I hear from the Catholics I know.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:55 AM
Mar 2015

Some of the Protestant folks don't seem to think Catholics are actually Christians. Which really ticks off my Catholic housemate and amuses me.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Yeah, that's a really old and silly canard.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

I haven't heard an actual human say it for a while, but i know they are out there.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
3. Gary Wills was on a book talk on C-SPAN this weekend re his new book
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:26 PM
Mar 2015

concerning the Catholic Church and Pope Francis. During the question period, the question above was posed - " Why do more non-Catholics like the Pope than Catholics do." Wills replied, "Because he is like Jesus."

Describing himself as a former conservative turned liberal, Wills presented a most interesting discussion of past and current Catholic thought, ranging from Augustine to Aquinas to recent popes John Paul II and Benedict to Bergolio's Argentinian/Jesuit history to Francis I today.

In addition to the column cited above, I would recommend finding this broadcast on the C-SPAN site and getting the full broadcast of an enlightening discussion by Gary Wills.

You may not agree with his every thought, but will likely find it interesting and thought-provoking.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Thanks for that. The book sounds interesting and will look for the c-span broadcast.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:49 PM
Mar 2015

The fact that this pope stirs up a lot of different responses I see as a good thing. He appears to be something more than a puppet.

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