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Related: About this forumPope, in Philippines, says same-sex marriage threatens family
"As you know, these realities are increasingly under attack from powerful forces which threaten to disfigure God's plan for creation and betray the very values which have inspired and shaped all that is best in your culture," he said. Pope Francis made his remarks at a Mass in Manila's cathedral and then at a meeting with families in the city's Mall of Asia Arena.
At the latter event, the pope called on his listeners to resist "ideological colonization that threatens the family." The Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, said later that the pope was referring to same-sex marriage, among other practices.
The pope's comments came less than a week after a speech to Vatican diplomats in which he criticized "legislation which benefits various forms of cohabitation rather than adequately supporting the family for the welfare of society as a whole," saying that such legislation had contributed to a widespread sense of the family as "disposable."
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1500200.htm
How's that new Pope-y Change-y thing working out again?
riversedge
(70,189 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)They come out in droves when he says something they like, though.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)"we should help the poor"? Such a revolutionary and radical statement warrants endless fawning praise, don't you think? Even in the face of rabid and unending attempts to deprive an entire class of human beings of their full and equal rights.
But
SOUP KITCHENS!!!
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)First, I strongly disagree with the word "realities"
Second, I totally agree with the phrase "powerful sources"
Let me list some:
1) Human Decency
2) Justice
3) Love
4) Equal Rights
5) Reality, the real thing
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)to actually say explicitly what he meant. He let one of his lapdogs have the spotlight for that, and stuck with vague bullshit in his own statements rather than say anything he'd actually have to own up to. Disgusting.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)Go fuck yourself.
I guess Scalia and Thomas just got their marching orders from the only authority they respect. (cause they don't repect the Constitution)
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Just like Mary Poppins.
niyad
(113,259 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)niyad
(113,259 posts)edhopper
(33,570 posts)seem to be unreservedly hostile to the Pope. Don't you know you are suppose to just disagree with him when he is wrong and applaud him when he says something right.
A Poll here said so.
Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)where you did give props to the Pope when you thought he deserved it (the Cuba deal thread). So I'm not sure what the problem is here. You're clearly not "unreservedly hostile" if that idea bothers you. And what's so wrong with being "unreservedly hostile" if you think the person deserves it, anyway?
edhopper
(33,570 posts)and issues with the Pope are much more nuanced than your four choices.
My response here was just a little joke at your expense.
Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)So how long can I expect to hear about this?
edhopper
(33,570 posts)Dumb shit?
Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)the Pope is saying dumb shit? I'm not the Pope, and I reject the Pope's views on many things, gays and women among them.
Let's not go this route. Up until now you and I haven't had any quarrel with each other. I'd prefer that didn't change.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)Your poll was just yesterday. I would have probably let it go by now, but this thread just let me have a giggle about it.
I'll leave it alone now.
Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)I like to think I have a sense of humor, but meaning can be hard to tell on the internet.
We're cool as far as I'm concerned. Moving on...
edhopper
(33,570 posts)It is hard to get across tone in posts.
Posts just meant to be funny can often sound harsh.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)He's just a normal mammal, and his imaginary friend doesn't exist.
rug
(82,333 posts)Sorry to interrupt this engrossing and informative thread. Carry on.