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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:56 AM Jan 2015

Hate speech: ‘Men who attacked Charlie Hebdo are heroes’

http://tribune.com.pk/story/822484/hate-speech-men-who-attacked-charlie-hebdo-are-heroes/

More than 500 people carrying placards marched from The Mall to the US Consulate. They shouted slogans extolling the attack at the publication’s office in Paris leaving left 12 people, including its editor and seven other employees, dead. They also offered funeral prayers for Saïd Kouachi and Chérif Kouachi, two brothers who were killed during a manhunt on January 9 for attacking the magazine.

Activists from the Tehreek Sirat-i-Mustaqeem, the Namoos-i-Risalat Mahaz and the Sunni Tehreek attended the rally. Tehreek Sirat-i-Mustaqeem leader Maulana Ashraf Asif Jalali led the rally. Mian Waleed Ahmed Sharaqpuri, Maulana Muhammad Shadab Raza Qadri, Maulana Muhammad Ali Naqashbandi and Maulana Raza-i-Mustafa were among the prominent participants.

Jalali said those who had attacked the magazine were “heroes”. He said they were neither Pakistanis nor had they obtained religious education from Pakistani madrassahs. “They were Muslims and we praise them for whatever they have done.”


Frighteningly, I've heard sentiments similar to this expressed right here on DU:

“The West is deliberately indulging in blasphemy to hurt Muslims around the world. Blasphemy too is a kind of terrorism and the West should stop it.
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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. To be fair, the statements I've seen reflect the first part of that quote.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jan 2015

But sadly I can't rule out the 2nd part, given how much has already shocked me.

TexasProgresive

(12,148 posts)
3. You got DU links as evidence that some here called those terrorist heros?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jan 2015

I admit I am not omniscient even to what goes on at DU though I visit regularly every day.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. If I had claimed someone actually said those words, you'd be right in demanding links.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jan 2015

But I didn't.

However, I have seen people blame "the West" and its satire for inciting the violence.

TexasProgresive

(12,148 posts)
11. Yes in post 5 but not in your original post.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jan 2015

You insinuated that DUers called terrorists heroes. The fact that some recognize that people can do heinous things ins response to perceived insults is not the same.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. Bullshit, I did not.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jan 2015

I said "similar sentiments" - which blame the blasphemers for provoking the attacks. That much has been disgustingly clear.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Those protestors appear to be real people, not straw men.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jan 2015

Perhaps you have a more detailed resolution picture of them to share?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
18. Please note, I did not say that members of DU called blasphemy terrorism.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jan 2015

The similar sentiments of "blasphemy" having provoked the attacks, and harming Muslims around the world are what I've seen.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
8. Their god must be a weak, candy-ass god who gets its feewings hurt easily.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

Poor widdle Allah. So helpless in the face of comments written on the Internet!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. There seem to be a lot of non-muslims who are confused about what religion
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jan 2015

they belong to, or so I've learned from Very Smart People here.

LeftishBrit

(41,190 posts)
16. Scumbags.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jan 2015

And no, while people on DU differ on the extent to which it's acceptable to show active disrespect for religions, NO ONE on DU has equated 'blasphemy' with 'terrorism' (there was one now-tombstoned member who used to imply that militant atheism was on the same plane as totalitarian Communism; but he was an exception, and no one has said that blasphemy is terrorism).

Anyone who supports the Kouachis is quite dangerously insane; fortunately few people do so!

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