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Was Satan's role in Job the worst thing he can be accused of? (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 OP
critical thinking and analysis will not be tolerated Adam051188 Dec 2014 #1
Gee, I could have sworn those mass slaughters were committed by humans. rug Dec 2014 #2
Keep up, rug. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #3
Oh, are you and warren conjoined? rug Dec 2014 #5
Even though I'm sure you'd love it, you don't control who responds to whom. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #6
Oh, are you trying to evade from your use of the word "we"? rug Dec 2014 #7
Are you pretending that this isn't a continuation of a discussion Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #8
My focus is entirely on your bizarre use of the first person plural. rug Dec 2014 #9
Of course it is Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #10
Meta is your bag, monger. Mine is grammar. rug Dec 2014 #11
Har har har. I see what you did there. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #12
I doubt it. rug Dec 2014 #14
Don't wet yourself over this, Gobby Heddi Dec 2014 #15
Good gravy. bvf Dec 2014 #13
Free Bird! AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #22
Lord knows, I cant change rug Dec 2014 #25
Alleged. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #21
Yes Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #4
It doesnt compare. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #16
so if god is the all powerful creator, why did "he" create satan...and why does he allow satan to msongs Dec 2014 #17
as was pointed out in the other thread, there appear to be very few examples Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #18
It seems that the people who were all killed in the flood, sodom, etc, Heddi Dec 2014 #19
I'll have to check the LOLCat Bible to see if Basement Cat did worse. nt TexasTowelie Dec 2014 #20
... trotsky Dec 2014 #24
Pretty much, and that story comes off making Yahweh look like a dick too. n/t trotsky Dec 2014 #23
Poor Satan. bravenak Dec 2014 #26
what if Locrian Dec 2014 #27
I wondered about that too Kalidurga Dec 2014 #29
From a Jewish Perspective, Satan only played a bit part, and acted as a pawn. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #28
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. Gee, I could have sworn those mass slaughters were committed by humans.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:47 PM
Dec 2014

Because, you know, Yahweh is just a fairy tale.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
6. Even though I'm sure you'd love it, you don't control who responds to whom.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:54 PM
Dec 2014

You post something and anybody can reply to it. It's the beauty of the Internets. But I'll be sure to hold you to your standard in the future. Because I'm sure you don't ever respond to anybody that hasn't first responded to you. FFS.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
7. Oh, are you trying to evade from your use of the word "we"?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:58 PM
Dec 2014

Was it the royal we?

The "we" that meekly rises from the back of a throng?

Or did you just take it upon yourself to speak for other posters?

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
8. Are you pretending that this isn't a continuation of a discussion
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:01 PM
Dec 2014

that was (poorly) locked?

If Warren wants to let me know I spoke incorrectly he is more than capable and welcome to do so. I'm sure he knows I can handle a little criticism. Unlike some other who get a thread locked when they make stupid comments in that thread.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
10. Of course it is
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:07 PM
Dec 2014

because why actually talk about the uncomfortable (for you) issues that the discussion raises when you can, instead, bring up the smoke and mirrors and make it about something else. I give you points for your consistency.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
12. Har har har. I see what you did there.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:12 PM
Dec 2014

But since yours is "grammar," I'm wondering what the everlovingfuck this means:

Metais your bag, monger.


What am I supposed to do to my bag? And why are you even talking about my bag? That seems kind of inappropriate.
Or are you practicing your Spanish now?

Because it couldn't just be a casual mistake because you go out of your way to point out when I do that.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
13. Good gravy.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:19 PM
Dec 2014

Apparently two posters agreeing on something is now suspect.

You're reaching, and badly.

msongs

(67,361 posts)
17. so if god is the all powerful creator, why did "he" create satan...and why does he allow satan to
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:57 PM
Dec 2014

be such a jerk, unless of course god is a sadist who does not, in fact, love everyone lol

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
18. as was pointed out in the other thread, there appear to be very few examples
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:48 PM
Dec 2014

of Satan doing anything, let alone anything evil. The one place where Satan performs outright evil acts is Job, and he does so with crazy-ass Yahweh's blessings. Meanwhile, there is the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, child sacrifice, the Egyptian genocide, wholesale slaughter of non-Jewish tribes, death for ark infractions, etc. all done by the burning-bush guy or at the urging of the Master of the Firmament.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
19. It seems that the people who were all killed in the flood, sodom, etc,
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:35 PM
Dec 2014

were only guilty of the sin of not obeying God. They were often described as being Wicked, but not really sure of much more than that. Wicked and non-conformist. Pretty broad rules there, God.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
27. what if
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 11:49 AM
Dec 2014

What if Satan was the one that actually wrote the bible. And it's all just a trick to get us to worship power and evil? Would be something to expect of a world class devil right?

I mean how do you account for all of the violence, war, mass murder etc? Yeah, there's some "soft" stuff in there just to make it palatable - but its a pretty evil drink if you swallow it all.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. I wondered about that too
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

it would be the most evil thing ever get a bunch of souls to follow you then betray them. But, is it really a betrayal some stuff that God asked his followers to do was really evil like genocide, so they deserve the betrayal for going along with the evil things.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
28. From a Jewish Perspective, Satan only played a bit part, and acted as a pawn.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

The real substance of the story is what passed between Job and the Whirlwind.



So that would make Satan like the Nazi who was just following orders.
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